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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tmacfor35, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. RocketsLegend

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  2. Rocket River

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    Sheesh man . .. AMERICA LOVES CRIMINALS!!!
    Why do you think Oceans 11 and Gangster Movies are so popular
    We root for them criminals . . . . .. . . but Insane Mosters?
    Nah!

    At this point Hillary maybe a criminal but American can and has handled corruption and criminality before

    TRUMP ON THE OTHER HAND - Is a criminal but also probably insane and unstable. Uncontrollable
    Which is far scarier than a mere criminal

    Rocket River
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    That they've been fixtures to a decades wide witchhunt with a full on impeachment and several indictments is more of why people are willing to brush aside the Wikileaks "scandals".

    Nothing that has been leaked about the clintons so far has been new news, and none of the "old news" has ever led to her arrest.

    If only Assamge could post from his Spanish basement the lurid details that cou,d lead to hillarys downfall:(
     
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    wikileaks could have video of hilary herself shooting seth rich on the street and it won't matter to these hilarybots. they've been hypnotized by her nefarious gaze and bewitched by her wicked scent.
     
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    Yawn. He Divested from the company. Nothing to see here.....
     
  6. Mr.Scarface

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    The problem with Wikileaks....is that they are determined to be relevant in this election. So the release of more emails each day is an OBVIOUS tactic to influence people. Problem is........there is NOTHING to see in these emails. The email are already baked into the numbers of the polls. People already believe the Russians are behind the hack and are trying to get Trump elected. The messenger is an accused Pedophile that is HIDING in the basement of the Ecuador embassy in London. Who cares!
     
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    A girl put it best "If a hacker gets into your husbands phone and lets you know that he is cheating on you. You don't get pissed off at the hacker, you get pissed off at your husband"-- The husban.. eh Hillary keeps blaming the hacker for her own evil nefarious acts.

    Wikileaks has been outspoken they don't want Hillary to be president

    People 'believe' Russia is behind them even though Wikileaks has basically said it was Seth, who was murdered.

    There is a lot already to see in the emails with more to come. The word is they are dropping bombs around Oct. 26th (Hillary's Birthday Surprise), they are waiting close enough to the election that the DNC can't replace the candidate. Apparently whatever it is will take out Kaine too.
     
  8. dandorotik

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    Hilarious the eagerness with which the HillaryHaters salivate at the leaks. The worst leaks will have ZERO effect on the election. All the Clinton campaign has to do is state, unequivocably, that the emails were altered or fake, and that's it. If some of these things are true, then they need to be investigated using the proper legal process. But it will not alter the election results.

    It is 100% laughable how badly some of you want the WikiLeaks to bring down Clinton before the election. Because, let's face it, that's what you really want. If you seriously think that what Clinton has done is vastly different from actions by people like W. Bush, Reagan, etc., you're seriously deluding yourself. It is all because you want your "guy" in the White House and you don't want the other one in there. That's all this is.

    Too late. Your guy is going to lose, and there's nothing that is going to change that between now and November 7. Get used to the first woman President in the history of the country.
     
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    Yeah, I support the principle of leaking. It's just that this is a blatant privacy dump on targeted officials without a singular purpose or narrative behind a(ny) criminal act(s). I'd be more receptive if they brute forced their way into GOP gmail accounts as well and released dirt on both parties rather than a clear and present goal of disrupting and weakening the American political process. This is very much akin to Watergate.

    It's outright manipulation and a disservice to the ideals of free speech hacktivism which has been able to generate grassroots sympathy for people like Snowden or Manning.

    For example, Lessig's response to his mentions on the hacked emails

    If You’re Ever Dissed in a Hacked Email, Try to Respond Like Larry Lessig

    Lawrence Lessig is a professor at Harvard Law School, a leading advocatefor campaign finance reform, and short-lived presidential candidate.

    He was also, in the view of the Clinton campaign, circa August 2015, a “smug,” “pompous,” loathsome guy whom a reasonable person might wish “to kick the **** out of on Twitter.”



    On Tuesday, these private barbs became public, thanks to WikiLeaks. And so, as Lessig made his way to New York to see his sick father, his inbox filled up with notifications about how much Neera Tanden once claimed to despise him.

    Reading through the email, Lessig was outraged — on Tanden’s behalf. Per Lessig’s blog:


    I’m a big believer in leaks for the public interest. That’s why I support Snowden, and why I believe the President should pardon him. But I can’t for the life of me see the public good in a leak like this — at least one that reveals no crime or violation of any important public policy.

    We all deserve privacy. The burdens of public service are insane enough without the perpetual threat that every thought shared with a friend becomes Twitter fodder.

    Neera has only ever served in the public (and public interest) sector. Her work has always and only been devoted to advancing her vision of the public good. It is not right that she should bear the burden of this sort of breach.


    This is an extraordinarily sane response. Or, at least, after 15 months of Donald Trump’s maniacal pettiness, Lessig’s graciousness feels extraordinary — as though maturity in the face of insult were a superhuman trait.

    But Lessig’s reaction is plainly correct. People have a right to say mean things about other people in private. Let he who has not sent a needlessly catty email about a friend, ex-lover, co-worker, or long-shot presidential candidate start the Twitter shaming.


    The New Republic posted a pretty good article about a certain leak that didn't involve Hillary but without proper curation and patience, it got lost in the shuffle of the disorganized scorched earth shotgun-to-the-face dumps. It's not as salacious as conspiracy nutters and trumpanzee nutters are grasping for, so who cares? :rolleyes:
     
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    Here is Marco Rubio's comments on Wikileaks. He clearly understands that these are being leaked out of animosity by Assange towards the Clintons. Further and more important he understoods that if RNC emails were ever leaked they are likely going to be as damaging to Republicans.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/rubio-will-not-discuss-wikileaks-emails/

    Rubio rejects WikiLeaks: 'Today it is the Democrats. Tomorrow it could be us'
    (CNN)Florida Sen. Marco Rubio broke from many in his party when he said Wednesday that Republicans shouldn't discuss the Hillary Clinton campaign emails published by WikiLeaks, a number of which have created bad optics and real headaches for the Democratic ticket.

    Rubio told CNN that "as our intelligence agencies have said, these leaks are an effort by a foreign government to interfere with our electoral process, and I will not indulge it."
    His remarks were first reported by ABC News.
    "Further, I want to warn my fellow Republicans who may want to capitalize politically on these leaks: Today it is the Democrats. Tomorrow it could be us," he told ABC.
    More at link.
     
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    We don't need leaked emails to know what Trump has done. Racial discrimination in housing, defrauding people through his university, not paying contractors, and etc..
     
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    I have lost all respect for Wikileaks and its bizarre "leader," who's busy trying to stay out of jail. Why? Because he is a willing tool of Putin and his regime, without any care in the world that he is enabling Putin's strongman government in Russia in it's attempt to influence our elections and destabilize our government, an action, in my humble opinion, somewhere just shy of an act of war against the United States. I'm wondering why the President hasn't, at the very least, withdrawn our ambassador for "consultations," the usual first step for a nation to show its extreme displeasure with the actions of another.

    Putin interfering with our elections in favor of his "puppet," Donald Trump, is completely unacceptable.
     
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    I would respect Wikileaks and Assange if he released emails from all political partes and didn't time them for the election but released them as soon as he got them.

    Instead he's showing he's nothing more than shill who rather than upholding the principles of transparency, accountablilty and speaking truth to power that he claims is really just out for to score points against those he considers his enemies and aggrandize himself.
     
  14. tmacfor35

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    This is too funny. Let's ignore someone who is trying to show how your government is corrupting you in so many ways because it came from a source you don't like.

    Wikileaks has 100% track record of telling the truth.

    It would be like some guy you don't get along with at work who exposes your spouse cheating on you with 100% damning evidence but you don't believe him because you don't like him.

    Stupid.
     
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    It is already too late to replace a candidate. People have started voting. LOL. If they had anything....they needed to release it earlier to help Trump with the women issue......
     
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    Is there any sane person left who doesn't think anything coming out of Wiki is nothing more than Russian propaganda now?
     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Looks like the media said it enough times that you believe it. Such a shame!
     
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    DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL MEDIA!!!!!
    Well there's also those 17 government and private security agencies saying it as well so....
     
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    So would they need to go in to the mailboxes of all the recipients and alter the emails too? If it were that simple crooked ass Hillary would have done it already.
     
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    Which agencies declared the content of the emails to be propaganda?
     

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