Where does everyone see the future of the Democratic Party?

If Biden wins and the Democrats take the Senate there will be fractures. The love affair between Sanders and Biden will probably end not long after inauguration and the idea of a new President having a honeymoon period is almost a thing of the past especially with Biden who has a long history in office.

There are going to be a lot of fights regarding health care, tax policy, and stacking the court. If COVID-19 is still with us there will be debates over how much more stimulus and the type of stimulus.

 

I'm not sure but I just hope there remains a centrist option, even if that means a third party.

 

Governing is hard. I expect problems and major differences. A Biden admin is going to have their work cut out but unlike someone who doesn’t listen, doesn’t learn and demand a single way (loyalty or get out), they will try to get all sides involved. How long that last depends on how big of a majority they have, if any, and how willing the other side play. I doubt they have the patient of the Obama admin. They will cut loose much faster.

FWIW, “infighting” or differences is a positive more than negative when you have leaders that can manage and handle it.

 

I’ll add that there many progressive policies that enjoy majority support, including handling covid by having experts at the table and actually listening to them, covid economic relief package, national health care reform that is more progressive than ACA, election reform - protecting America election system from foreign interference and strengthening anti-corruption and decreasing influence from mega $$, common sense basic gun reform such as universal background check to name a few.

A Biden admin can quickly gauge willingness from all side when they work on these.

 

The same cat herding that we have watched since 1968. But that's the way democracy works.
It is still the House Majority Leader and Senate Majority leader that decide where to draw the legislative lines so you aren't going to see anything out of left field.

 

In 25 years more progressive. For the near future, it will stay the same with the various wings and branches of the party as they are.

I will add that is dependent on some victories by the Democrats. If they churn up this much interest and still lose the presidential election and the senate voters, especially younger ones may feel like their votes don't matter and like there is no point.

If they see that their activism managed to help restore and strengthen our Democracy, they may be more actively involved, or at least some of them. Bringing in new ideas and messages will help to strengthen younger voter turnout and activism.

 

If they sweep all three, I expect majority will support getting rid of the filibuster and packing the court.

Think the socialist like AOC and Sanders will see that without Trump to aim at, their agitations will not be popular and would be in their best interest to settle for some wins on climate change and labour.

Healthcare will be the main issue, particularly if SCOTUS invalidates ACA. Full public healthcare will be a difficult sell. A midway option is a governemnt provided primary and preventive care, while private insurance handles the specialist and surgeries and primary care for those who want,

 

It may not be the same cat, but the leadership still holds the leash.

 

When I read thoughts like this, it makes me realize why the Republicans continue to hammer in the wins. (Dumping Trump is a massive win for the Republicans).
I believe its easier to shed the politicians from the discussion and instead focus on the policies. One can make an argument politicians make the party or policies make the party. Republicans are known for smaller government solutions, so why is it they passed such an atrocity like the Patriot Act? Or why do they always run to the Supreme Court for cases that are not that important in the grand scheme? Is it really that bad we count ballots (WI) that were postmarked before the election? I understand the law is the law, but **** off on the constant big government over reach. Its obvious modern Republican politicians no longer have the original parties foundation at heart. This attributes massively to the current partys identity.

Democrats have their own problems with their party's identity too. Its just not as fractured at this point. For a party that was founded on taking care of the people, they have befallen to their identity politics. They are collecting money from special interests just as fast as the Republican's. The party refuses to distinguish between progressives and revolutionaries. Progressive is good. Revolutionary is not. While I am not criticizing Biden as a person, I will say he is not a progressive. He is a moderate at best. He is what we need right now, not the revolutionary bullshit like defund the police.

Im not sure where we are headed. Millennials need to grow up, start taking office and kick the boomers out. The sooner they start running and planning for our countrys future, the better off we all are. Regardless of the direction.

 

You vastly overestimate the amount of people who think like you.

 

The No 1 thing they need to focus on is healthcare. There needs to public option. The poor people get medicaid the old get medicare. Right now with balance billing BS no even knows what is covered.

 

How about all the nutty Trumpers and hard right wingers pushing for a dictatorship snap out of it, Biden can take over as the moderate right candidate, Bernie/AOC/ Warren types can take over the the moderate left candidates.

Then this country would be balanced politically and could start progressing at a similar rate to all the other highly developed countries.

Outside of that fairy tale becoming a reality, I’m pretty done with the r****dation that is American politics, and therefor this country for the most part.

 

The anti-Trump coalition is bigger than the Biden coalition, no doubt.

Republicans will do a lot to divide and conquer, like what they did with Blue Dogs in '14. Obama's mistake was to waste away year putting ACA in Senate Commitees no one knew or GAF about. Then when Teddy kicked the bucket, the ACA that passed made such a dramatic and procedural fashion that Republicans and its media cronies were keen to complain about.

This time, I'd rather rip off that bandaid and start ramming things through. Do enough to please everyone instead of doing one big thing that's so compromised and watered down, no one will hold that baby.

But that's just my wish.

In reality, even if Trump is kicked out, there will be numerous state battles and possible runoffs to see who wins those contested senate seats that it might not be all square and neat mid January...

End of the beginning or beginning of the end?

 

My fear is that the Dems somehow screw this up and revive a Republican party that Trump has all but killed. This country is ripe for populism because both parties have screwed the middle class for so long - this is why Trump was elected. The best course is to implement some populist ideas (heath care, drug and prison reform) without going hard core lefty with identity politics, attacking corporations, and raising taxes on the middle class.

 

At the funeral of the GOP.