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[War] Trump declares war on Iran for regime change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026.

  1. astros123

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    The chips export ban happened under biden in 2023 and got Netherlands to get ASML to join in on the ban. Trump reversed the ban in 2025 and allowed nvvdia to sell them the h200 which is 15x stronger than what they were getting before. The idea Trump foreign policy is about China and not corrupt deal making is something maybe you cultists believe in but smart people aren't brainwashed enough.
     
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    If bibi was killed maybe the Israelis can overthrow their tyrannical govt

    This may be the best war of all time
     
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    Undoing what Iran bought with their 1.7 billion gift from Obama.
     
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    Has any leader in the world has killed more innocent civilians than Bibi the past couple years?
     
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    It's possible ,

    There have been some other mass killings in Africa.

    But bibi is top 3 guaranteed
     
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    The opposition Leader seems like a nice guy

    https://www.cjpme.org/pr_2026_02_25_huckabee_lapid

    Lapid meets Netanyahu, vows support for war
    The opposition leader said he had assured the Israeli premier of his "full backing" for "Operation Roaring Lion."
     
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    People are going to be mad
     
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    He's been in office for 30 years, doesn't sound like a democracy to me
     
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    Just pumped it jumped 60c already
     
  11. geeimsobored

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    No politician in Israel is going to ever oppose military action against Iran. I'd even bet that some of the Arab parties would declare support for this.

    For context, both Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis all get military and economic support from Iran. Those three also happen to be the primary source of conflict for the Israelis. I think it's pretty obvious why Lapid would pledge his support on this one. This attack is actually far less controversial than the Gaza invasion.
     
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    Not the most savvy investor here but it look as if the gas price is moving in opposite direction to @Space Ghost bitcoins
     
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    This is an elective (or preventive) war, which the international community have historically deems as illegal and immoral. While the threat is real or at least debatable (nuclear weapons in this case), there is no imminent threat.

    The U.S. has chosen to be in a few elective / preventive wars. These include the Iraq War of 2003 (overstated threat) and the Vietnam War (ideological threat). Other examples (not U.S.) are Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor and the current Ukraine war (at least from the Russian's PoV; most see this as a war of aggression).
     
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    Congratulations on paying the Israeli gas tax. 26% of Americans approved of this war and that was before the price hikes. Trump has no exit plan. I pray for the soliders
     
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    Interesting US strategy , spawn camp where new leaders come from and hope the Iranians rage quit.

    The counter-strike generation is in charge now.
     
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    I realize this is a few pages old, but I'm just catching up.

    Iran does have the ability to inflict terror on the US and kill Americans. They certainly have the power to disrupt oil production and transportation in the region, which will likely drive a worldwide recession and create all kinds of as yet unidentified tensions, consequences, and uncertainties. They are deliberately trying to broaden the war and make it a messy conflict that is difficult to turn off while at the same time driving popular support in the US and other countries down further than it already is. This is not Iraq, which was relatively confined. This is in danger of spinning out of control fast and may turn into a regional war not of states, but militias and religious factions. That's the exact result the Biden administration was trying to prevent after October 7. You would be a fool to think this cannot affect you and yours and you'd be an even greater fool to think any of the civilian leadership in this administration is capable of managing a dynamic, complex, sensitive effort like this. If we get out of it OK, it won't be because of skill from this administration.

    As others have pointed out, the US casualties are unlikely to stay in single digits. I mean, it's pure luck we have not had deaths from the three fighter jets shot down by friendly fire already and Hegseth just said the timeline could move back. In addition, he refused to say there were no troops on the ground in Iran. There will almost certainly be a few new stars on the CIA wall shortly.

    Air power is great in support of ground troops, but it never wins a war alone. If you recall, we had near-total air superiority in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. How did those turn out? Iran is almost three times larger than Iraq, twice the population, is better educated, has a much greater GDP, many more roads and railroads, and has much more critical political, religious, and geographical position.

    The one salient point made here is economic pressure on Iran. But economics don't matter nearly as much as hunger. Are we prepared to lay siege and starve the country into submission? That could take years or longer and would carry with it tremendous risks for our international relationships. In a country like Iran, you can bet the one group getting food will be the military, so you still must do something other than air sorties.
     
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    Trump started the export control on chips and top chip export to China remains banned. Surely he is pragmatic and pro-business sometimes but if he really doesn’t care about national security, as you suggested in your far fetched analogy, why not lift the ban on other chips also? Marco Rubio is known to have a hawkish stance on China. He is sanctioned by China. Venezuela and Iran are both key allies for China and cutting off China’s energy supply restrain their ability to start a war on Taiwan. Your argument that everything Trump does is money-driven is untenable, your analogy is a straw man fallacy, because the US economy would probably be better off avoiding direct conflict in Iran.
     
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    Seems like it was miscalculation, Israel's intelligence got us ****ed again. They thought this would be like Venezuela, except allatoya was dying of cancer anyway, and they already had a plan in place moving forward
     
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    US airstrikes were militarily effective in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia/Kosovo and etc. The failures were the succession plans.
     
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    LOL. Russia is one of the countries that will greatly benefit here. The price of oil goes up and China is forced to buy more from Russia, becoming temporarily more reliant on that relationship. Plus, more money for Putin and buds to throw at Ukraine. In response, China will probably put up a few more gigawatts of solar over the next year and call it good.

    My goodness, the searching for anything that makes the administration look like anything more than the obvious clown show is reaching absurd levels. If an administration were concerned so much about China, doing things in South America and Iran would probably come behind doing things in the Pacific, Asia, and, you know, China.
     
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