US now pushes UN to back 'immediate' Gaza ceasefire to free hostages

I wonder, do you think HAMAS will still be in power? Will they think twice before attacking Israel again?

The only thing stopping Israel from genocide is their history with WW2.......that area is a powder keg.

DD

 

Israel must and will finish the job.

The UN need to STFU. They were complicit in arming Hamas.

 

Will Hamas still be in power? No - they will never be the "ruling" party in power in Gaza again, I put it in quotations because they were essentially a gang/terrorist organization because they didn't control the borders, did not have the right to trade with other nations or collect taxes, their water ways were controlled by Israel etc.

Will they think twice about attacking Israel again? They will be gone, but it won't matter in the long term because other rebel/terrorist organizations will spring up like weeds, and Hezbollah will have even more interest in the region, and can get there through Iraq.

Also - now there is a whole generation of Arabs Muslims in the region that have an even larger hatred for Israel.

The quickest way for peace is for the Palestinians to push the Zionists into the sea or for the Zionists to push the Palestinians into the sea.

Then Israeli Jews can occupy Gaza and the WB or Palestinians can take back Israel and the moderate Palestinians and the religious zealots can fight for control - like what is happening in Iraq.

 

What is finishing the job?

All of Gaza? What about the West Bank?

Are the Palestinians going to be allowed to return home?

Who governs Gaza? Who governs the West Bank?

What about the Iranian terrorists that are attempting to flood into the region through Iraq?

 

Destroy Hamas. Bring their leadership to justice, completely eradicate any and all of their capabilities to be a military threat. Prevent further hateful indoctrination of the Gazan population by Hamas. Control in- and outflow of resources to prevent a repeat buildup of terrorist resources.

Free Gaza!

From Hamas.

 

It's not just the quickest way. It's the only way.

 

"We have to destroy the village to save the village. "

 

I really hope those hostages can be saved and I was glad that many of them were in previous cease fires but I really doubt that Hamas or the IDF will accept this one.

 

Okay - so lets say that Israel takes the rest of Gaza.

Then I am assuming that the civilian Palestinians that lived in Gaza are allowed to return.

They are going to return to absolute destruction. This isn't like the USA in Mosul or Faluja, where the USA was careful to not level the cities, and the Marines actually restored some of the damage that they did........ Gaza, and it's 1000 year old structures has been leveled, the infrastructure has been destroyed, and Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on the planet. So what are these Palestinians supposed to do? They are not allowed to conduct trade, they have very limited means to rebuild. Can you see how Palestinians are going to hate Israel, if they did not before? The entire area is a parking lot.

How is this going to all work?

 

I don't know - maybe the Gazans should have thought about that before they committed the October 7 atrocities.

Israel's PRIMARY objective has to be to eliminate the immediate threat from Gazans "promising" to commit October 7 again and again and again, and from endless rocket attacks on Israel every day. The Gazans had been building up to this for a very long time.

They must not be allowed again to build up this kind of terrorist weapon arsenal.

The root cause of the problem here is the hate "Palestinians" get indoctrinated with from early childhood. They just want to kill Jews. We have all seen the evidence of it.

If that weren't the case, they could build a second Singapore.

It's not Israel's fault.

But yes, it would be in Israel's own interest to not have to worry about more hate from Gaza. How to get there? I really don't know.

Germany was leveled after world war II. The Marshall plan helped build it up again. But Nazism was eradicated.

Due to the deep roots and intertwinement of Jew hate in Islam with the "Palestinian" agenda, I really don't know how the hate there can ever be eradicated. Even if Israel gave them all the resources in the world to help build things up again, the "Palestinians" would not stop hating the Jews.

 

How has this worked before whenever any territory has been conquered?

We should have plenty of analogs to compare to given that most of recorded human history is this exact thing happening on repeat.

 

Unironically yes.

I'm wholly disinterested in the narratives.

Get it over with already.

 

There will always be an org like "Hamas" as long as the Palestinians aren't self-governed and their PLA is held toothless in terms of credibility and international authority.

It'll be genocide one way or the other, but I'm internally at that point as well.

 

Unlikely. The current right wingnut leaders want a genocide.

 

Why do you think that if they WERE self-governed, there would NOT be an org like "Hamas"? Hamas has been governing Gaza since 2005.