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UK Election Dirty Trick: Using Muslim Homophobia

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, May 7, 2011.

  1. langal

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    I seriously doubt it's "Islamophobia" that causes Islamic homophobia. It's sort of ingrained into the religion. Just like Christianity.

    Do you attribute Christian homophobia to the (largely liberal) antipathy towards Christians? Of course you do not and should not. It was most likely the backwards, homophobic views of many Christians which started it. Same with Muslims.
     
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    Apparently you have missed my point.
    There are two trends that I see.
    For some reason many religious people are homophobic. The more radical religious people are more homophobic.

    With less tolerance towards a religion the people who follow that religion tend to become more radical.

    Do you disagree with any of these trends?

    These two trends lead to:
    More islamophobic notions tend to lead towards more homophobic behavior among the followers among that religion.

    And

    With more tolerance towards the Islam will lead to less homophobic behavior among the followers of that religion.
     
  3. weslinder

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    Completely. If that were true, Saudi Arabia and Iran would have the most liberal forms of Islam, and be completely accepting of homosexuality. Muslims in France, with it's relative intolerance of Islam, are more accepting of homosexuality than anywhere else, according to the Guardian article posted earlier. English Puritans really radicalized when they came to America, and were away from the Church of England. I would be incredibly surprised if you could find a correlation at all, but if you can, it's opposite the one you've proposed.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Bigotry has been an easy target for exploitation in politics since the dawn of civilization.

    Oldest trick in the book.

    Speaking of man-on-man action; am I too late for the inevitable Mathloom/ATW catfight?
     
  5. langal

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    I do see your point. Islamic homophobia is merely a reactionary response to all this Western/Jewish/White/Capitalism/Christian/Jewish/German hate of Islam.

    I suppose I disagree then.

    I think you can condemn Islamic homophobia and rape-victim stoning for what it is and ask for tolerance and acceptance from both sides.
     
  6. arno_ed

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    No not merely an Reactionary response. It is clear that among religious people there is a trend towards homophobia. The hate of the religion increases it since the number of radical people increase. So without the hate towards the islam,there would still be to much homophobia (just like it is present in Christian populations). And I believe the only way to get rid of it is by accepting the differences between people (wether they are homosexual, jewish, muslim, christian atheist etc).

    Like I said before I really hate the homophobia that is present among the religious group.
     
  7. langal

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    I suppose I understand your theory but just don't think it applies in this case.

    If it were increased anti-Christian violence then yes, a reactionary correlation is arguable. But in this case, I would think that anti-Islam groups are largely religious and homophobic themselves. If anything, homosexuals are generally more "liberal' and accepting of Islam than the homophobic Western-religious fundamentalists.
     

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