Trump: Transgenders no longer welcome in the military

Because they want government money to get there op done. It's not a medical condition like a marine losing his arm in combat. What a horrible joke

 

That is true for some of them but not all of them. I can think of much bigger wastes of govt. money than the few military applicants for transgender surgery.

 

I agree with you there. I just don't think the tranny community should get a free op on something they chose as a lifestyle. If you're not happy with yourself that's fine. To me I just think funding for anything medical should be for a legit reason

 

You mean like our tax dollars buying truckloads of viagra for the military, which costs many many times more than any trans surgeries.

Just stupid wedge politics played by stupid-in-chief instead of, you know, doing something that would actually help the country. He's not about helping anyone but himself and his family.

 

Explain how a transgender op helps the country

 

You can duck and dodge the question all you want. I'm not disagreeing your point about the viagra subject. My point still is why should the government fund an operation that is not by any means a need, it's a want. That is my only question. If you don't have a direct answer than don't bother

 

It helps the person that wants to serve and risk their life for the country. The country is supposed to help the people living in the country, the moment it turns its back on those people is the moment it starts to fail as a country.

 

It helps them??? You're joking right? I always thought that the training the military provides helps a soldier, not removing their penis or adding t***...

 

Yes, pretty clearly the case if you understood the issue. Military training helps the military.

A person having a penis or breasts is kinda irrelevant to how much they can help, that's kind of the point here.

 

I think the point is that mental illness has no place in the military. Suggesting that those in the military should receive treatment for their mental illness while in the service kind of misses the point. I do think that they should receive that treatment.....just not in the military anymore. They do the same thing for PTSD, they'll treat you, but they'll treat you on the way out and continue to do so once you are a civilian.

 

Once again, you are not a psychiatrist and it's not up for you to determine if Transgender people have a mental illness or not. No matter how important you think your opinion on the matter is or how informed you think you are on the matter, you're not. No amount of Googling makes you an expert on the subject.

 

LOL, it's psychiatrists that are the ones listing it as a mental disorder, not me. You can't blame me for simply knowing that fact while you who is probably not a psychiatrist can disagree with that fact all you like, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with that information.

 

Do we really have to go through this again? It is SOME Psychiatrists that are and some that are not. Period.

You, with 0 experience in the field, claim that some are right and the others are just politically motivated, with 0 proof to this matter but your own bias.

The difference between you and me is that I'm content to let them have their discussions on the matter while you go around saying one side is right and the other is wrong as if you are part of their discussion and community.

 

The same could easily be said about Women.

 

If it was only "some"

1. We wouldn't be talking about "gender reassignment surgery" as a "treatment"
2. It wouldn't be in the DSM as well as the ICD

There's no way around it, transsexualism IS a mental disorder. It's not the end of the world, so is ADD. You don't help anything by denying it.

 

No, it really couldn't, and it's ridiculous comparing all women to men with mental disorders.

 

Depends. Pregnancy can be a huge problem in military efficiency. I can't tell you how many girls got off my ship before Deployment after getting pregnant, specifically for that reason.

Have you served?

Surgery for breast augmentation can be a killer to tax payer dollars as well. Also, Women are biologically weaker too, so there is a difference in how much they can help in for certain jobs.

 

One side or the other. If you think Transgender folks are inefficient, then you need to take a LONG look at Women. Seeing these Women for Trump people talking about "Military efficiency" is amusing.

I, for one, think we should allow any and everyone that is willing, much like Sam in GOTs. They do not have to be your typical member of the Night's Watch.

 

In many cases we have added better t*** to women in the military, FYI.

 

You should present your argument to the W.H.O which has considered dropping it under that definition and the A.P.A, not me.

Again, I'm quite content to let the professionals suss this out over themselves. It's interesting that you ignore international scientific communities when it comes to other subjects like climate change though.

Also, you don't help anything by pretending to know more than experts either.

I have not served and that's why I said kinda.

I completely agree with your point that considering the Transgender thing, you can make the same arguments for women serving as well.