Trump to declare national emergency to build border wall

These congressmen and senators can protest all they want …. this one will be settled by the SCOTUS.

I have a suspicion that Trump is going to win this fight … based upon the criteria of declaring an emergency.

"Cant be solved by conventional legislation" ….. We've been playing this game for almost 40 years with no solution.

How many millions of illegals live in our country - somewhere between 11m & 30m depending upon who's data you use. That's somewhere between 3.5-10% of our population total


How many are caught entering illegally daily - literally Thousands. How many more get thru ? That's an untold sum.

Drugs ? (I'd legalize them all but that's not the point) human trafficking ? Cartels ? Illegals committing rape , murder and other crimes (yeah its a small number)

Many thousands attempting to take advantage of our screwed up asylum laws ?

There's a lot wrong here that Congress has half assed , immigration and law enforcement have dropped the ball and the courts having muddied the waters by declaring we have to educate their children , give them drivers licenses and bank accounts …. cant ask for proof of citizenship when encountered by law enforcement because that's profiling …. ugh , the list goes on and on. Seems the illegals have more rights than citizens in many regards.


Lets settle this argument(s) in the high court ….

 

Its possible republican senators with take the hypocrite route and wimp out, surrendering the senates' role and allowing this blatant executive overreach, just to build a vanity wall. And trump has threatened a veto. But make the republicans take a stand and then force trump to further his overreach...

Trump on brink of defeat on border emergency
Just one more Senate Republican is needed to block Trump’s emergency declaration, though even critics are reluctant to buck the president.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/25/trump-national-emergency-congress-1185589

 

It isn't just an if there is an emergency, but also whether that will allow him to actually re-allocate the funds. He's got an uphill battle to climb.

 

2 years of trump and 2 gop houses

 

He got a 5-4 adv in the Supreme Court. People knows it’s not an emergency. Bs crapz. But he does have that advantage.

 

Not only is this post generally terrible, but what's with the weird spacing between your question marks, like this ?

That's ****ing odd man. Don't you know brown people can get in that space? Close it up it's an emergency.

But, let's hope you're right. Let's hope President's can just sign a flimsy emergency declaration and spend whatever they want.

By the time it finally gets upstairs it will no doubt have been blocked many times and be tied up in various eminent domain proceedings and other such items. Even if things go perfectly for Trump there's almost no chance any significant portion of the wall that nobody wants or needs is completed by 2021 (or, prior, if he's removed from office beforehand).

In the meantime, President Harris or whoever takes over. Green New Deal emergency time! That would be an ab fab outcome you know?

 

Aside from the rationalization of autocracy you just presented, if the USSC approved of this emergency power on the basis that Congress could never find consensus, it would actually make it harder for Congress to find consensus in the future. On any controversial subject, the party with the presidency is incentivized to refuse compromise so that the president can short-circuit the whole legislative process with emergency decrees. Congress needs to know it is up to them to find the solution and the future of the Republic depends on them.

 

5-4 in favor of Constitutionalists! Yeah, they are partisan, but I'll bet Roberts rules against Trump on this one. It will test the objectiveness of the other 4 Conservative justices.

 

I don't think roberts is going to rule for trump.

 

Here's the full story:

U.S. general tells senators China and Russia pose military threat but there is none on southern border

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...ary-threat-none-southern-border/#.XHWr8ohKiUk

 

Well, looks like House Republicans aren't the only ones who can't find time to read this 70-something word onslaught:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/trump-national-emergency-bill-republicans-senate.html

 

Kudos to Will Hurd, TX 23rd.

 

Deep state military coup!! You know what this means?

We need another tax break for the ridiculously wealthy.

 

Jonathan Turley's testimony before the House Judiciary Committee today:

Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once said, “If my fellow citizens want to go to hell, I will help them. It is my job.” He was expressing the limited role of courts in challenges to federal law. They will gladly send Congress to hell. It only needs to point to the destination.

The National Emergencies Act of 1976 is an example of this body being hellbent to surrender its institutional powers–even its institutional relevancy–in the governing of this nation. Indeed, it is more proof that Madison may have been wrong in his faith that members would fight jealously to protect their constitutional authority. While Madison hoped in Federalist No. 51 that “ambition must . . . counteract ambition,” members have shown little institutional fidelity as they worked toward their own institutional obsolescence. If this controversy has any positive result, it will be to expose that record and force members to resume their constitutional duties under Article I. Yet, the effort to litigate this matter seems to suggest that this controversy is the making of the President, not Congress. To make matters worse, some have suggested that this body should sue as a party to contest the declaration. Such a filing would use the precedent secured in United States House of Representatives v. Burwell, 21 where the House of Representatives succeeded in establishing standing in what proved to be a successful challenge to President Obama ordering potentially the payment of billions to insurance companies under the Affordable Care Act without an authorization from Congress. I was lead counsel for the House of Representatives in that case. We won the case. Superficially, it may look like the wall controversy. Obama sought funds from Congress and, when unsuccessful, acted unilaterally. But Obama ordered the money directly from the Treasury as a permanent appropriation, like the money used to pay tax 21 185 F. Supp. 3d 165 (D.D.C. 2016). 18 refunds. Congress had never approved such payments. Conversely, Trump is using appropriated funds and an authorization under federal law.

The border declaration is now being challenged in multiple courts. That is right and proper. However, there is no need for this body to file as a party. As a long advocate of legislative authority and specifically legislative standing, I can only implore this body not to risk the hard-fought victory in Burwell with an ill-considered challenge. The concern is that the challenge will not only fail but that this body will undermine its own standing precedent. While a court could rule on the merits of the arguments in such a challenge, it is a well-known fact that courts will often look to standing as a way to avoid such difficult question. There is no reason for members to risk a negative ruling on standing in a weak case when it is already being fully litigated by others and members can join as amicus curiae. Some of us have written and argued for years to establish legislative standing. Much still must be done but it would be a wasteful and self-defeating act for this body to risk our victory in Burwell on a filing with such a low likelihood of success.

That brings us back to Holmes. Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. The court is more likely to send Congress along its long chosen road toward institutional obsolescence. ​

https://jonathanturley.org/wp-conte...Judiciary.National-Emergencies-Act.Final_.pdf

 

Trump really needs to figure out a way to gracefully push this stupid wall onto the back burner. I know his base wants it, but it is a real loser for him at this point. It has just gotten more and more pitiful and the optics are just really bad.

Focus on the economy, job creation and how bat **** crazy the far left (quasi socialist) portion of the democratic party is. Emphasis on the NGD and the pushing of environmental concerns over job creation are also winners for him.

At this point everyone with any moral compass knows that Donald Trump is a grifter, a bigot and a monster of a person..... he cannot change that, but he can paid the democrats as economically dangerous..... and argue you are better with the devil you know.

 

Principal O’shaughnessy?

 

If we don’t ban together we will die.

Then it doesn’t matter who’s skeleton sits on the Iron Throne.

Has Trump thought about traveling south with a group of brave individuals and capturing an MS13 rapist drug ringer and bringing them to Pelosi so she can see it with her own eyes? Maybe this way she’ll fall in line.

 

Be serious man... trump can't possibly travel south... he may have a flareup of those bone spurs that he used to duck military service before...