Transgender and Sports

I will be honest... I don't give it much thought. Curious why you do? Is this leading to another "bathroom crisis"?

 

I’m actually surprised Kevin Durant hasn’t tried this yet.

 

There's nothing that will bring out the inner TERF's in some of our friends on the left than instances where a biological male gets to beat the hell out of biological women in combat sports simply because he has a pony tail.

 

IMO if it is a man who became a woman, it gives her an advantage, but not the other way around, it is just genetics.

 

I like Joe Rogan's take on it. It's cheating in any other circumstance when the competitive advantage is strength or physicality.

Just google Joe Rogan and transgender. He's mentioned it many times before.

 

Juwanna mann? It never even crossed my mind.
What if I told you that Eve could possibly have been the first transgender? She was , after all, created from Adam's rib. just shayin'

 

Does it give them an unfair advantage? I have to think it does, though I don't truly know the science of it all.

Tough call on how to treat them. Not really enough of them to give them their own section. If they do indeed have an advantage that is unfair to the female participants. I would still like them to participate though. Personally it would depend on a number of factors, but I'd lean towards not letting them compete in women's sports.

Hermaphrodite/intersex or whatever we are calling it is a more interesting scenario where I'd say they are ok.

Of course is it fair that Kevin Durant is nearly 7 feet tall and I'm only 5'8? No, but the world isn't fair.

 

Yes, that is true. It depends on their age, but let's take a high school age girl of 16, a normal testosterone level would be between 7-75ng/dL a 16 year old boy would have 100-1,200ng/dL.

Basically at any point past 9 years old you are going to have a drastic difference in testosterone levels in boys and girls.Testosterone as we all know, is an anabolic steroid which means that biological males over the age of 9 would have an absolute unfair advantage in competition against biological females over the age of 9. It's one of the main reasons why we keep the sports separate.

 

Don't care. It will work itself out when the science is in.

 

No, not necessarily, they are still biological men and what is going on in their heads has nothing to do with what their bodies are doing. In fact, a big problem in the transgender community is that even with hormone therapy including testosterone blockers most transgender women fail to adequately suppress testosterone levels.

They could believe themselves to be fish and they still wouldn't grow gills.

 

It's such a rare situation that I just don't think about it. It's unfair but it takes time for science and society to flesh out new concepts and ideas. If it were me I'd require competition based on the biology since that is where a drastic advantage in strength and speed can occur. Or maybe they can compete according to gender identity but with a handicap, like golfers get.

 

This is a tricky subject and I'm open to being swayed on it either way.

My feelings on it right now though is that they should compete as their born gender.

 

There are cross-spectrums of gender that's beyond my understanding to debate on (mental, genetic, physiological, hormonal). Beyond our own judgments, what's tough is that it's hard to determine credibility and it's something standards/rules can't be placed atm.

A simpler world would be to just separate between dicks and p*****s, but a lot of trans-gender people go through suicide and insanity trying to reconcile their reality with society's.

For people at that age, I don't think winning is the main lesson...it's just the best motivator. I can't imagine being the parent of a transgender kid hearing the taunts of other parents or their kids regardless of whether they compete in their biological gender assignment.

But the purist in me would really question of the records being made by people who normally didn't compete in those categories before.

 

I think gender should be entirely irrelevant given the loose definition it has these days and things should be separated by sex, something that cannot change. You can be any of thousands of different genders but you can only be 1 of 2 sexes.....or a mutation/birth defect. I think in sports up until the age of 8 or 9, you can just have everyone compete together because at those ages it doesn't really matter, after that they should be separated by sex.

The chemicals flowing through a biologically male individual give them an unfair advantage over a biologically female individual.....even if that doesn't mean that the biologically male individual will always win. Think of it almost as weight classes if you like.

That said, if biologically female individuals wish to compete with biological males despite the disadvantage, they should be allowed to, but it shouldn't go the other way.