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Trade Deadline

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by gunn, Jul 21, 2004.

  1. gunn

    gunn Contributing Member

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    With Major League Baseball's trade deadline 10 days away what directions will Gerry and the Astros take?

    With these names I've compiled I would like to discuss a little word association concerning these players and topics and the team's direction and hear some of your thoughts on what you want to happen or what you think the Astros will do in the immediate (before deadline) or near future (after deadline i.e next year).


    Brad Ausmus
    Jeff Bagwell
    Carlos Beltran
    Lance Berkman
    Craig Biggio
    Taylor Buchholz
    Chris Burke
    Raul Chavez
    Roger Clemens
    Morgan Ensberg
    Carlos Hernandez
    Jeff Kent
    Mike Lamb
    Jason Lane
    Brad Lidge
    Wade Miller
    Roy Oswalt
    Andy Pettitte
    Tim Redding
    Willy Tavares
    David Weathers
    Tommy Whiteman

    Drayton
    Gerry


    ...or in general


    team goals and directions (positive and negative)
    the bullpen
    starting rotation
    the defense
    youth/age of players
    lineup
    manager/coaching staff
    minor league talent pool
    team speed
    player personalities (positive and negative)
     
  2. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

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    random thoughts:

    i don't think anyone would take bagwell or ausmus....neither has performed well...and both have contracts that have them drastically overvalued at this point of their careers. i would say ausmus is my least favorite astro.

    beltran is an obviously tradeable commodity...and sans some pretty strong indications from him that he wants to stick around, i'd start shopping him right now.

    kent could be tradeable, i suppose. wonder if he has a no-trade clause, though? not sure he'd be willing to waive that at this point.

    clemens isn't going anywhere. not sure if he'll play next year, but if he plays baseball at all this year or next, it will only be in an astros jersey.

    wade miller -- i don't know what to do with this guy! i certainly wouldn't commit big dollars to him.

    i don't see tavares as an opening day starter next year. the guy is still in AA ball. i'd like to see him on the AAA squad soon, though.

    lidge remains the closer.

    burke is your starting 2B next season.

    i personally don't get real excited about jason lane as a prospect.
     
  3. gunn

    gunn Contributing Member

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    Yea Max I don't see any thing special about Lane either.

    Thanks for the thoughts and opinions.
     
  4. spence99

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    I would definitely trade Beltran at this point. Also, I would try to get Kent to waive his no trade and try and trade him.

    Hopefully you can get a few prospects that may be ready for the majors next year for them because other than Burke, we don't have much down on the farm.
     
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  6. MadMax

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    It is definitely time to have the fire sale. Get rid of everyone that you can and get some prospects.
     
  8. JPM0016

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  9. MadMax

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    welll...ummmmm...hidalgo had a good week.... ;)
     
  10. gunn

    gunn Contributing Member

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    Now that the deadline is less than 48 hours away I thought I would bump this thread to get everyone's thoughts and opinions on what the Astros should do.
     
  11. The Real Shady

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    Bobby Abreau, Kenny Lofton, Curt Shilling, Steve Finley, Luis Gonzalez, Richard Hidalgo.
     
  12. gunn

    gunn Contributing Member

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    The time seems to have come for the Astros to make some tough calls. At this point I am convinced that Beltran and Kent should be moved. I really wish that Miller wasn't injured so we could move him as well. By moving Beltran and Kent, I don't think the Astros would give way to competitive baseball. In all honesty, I believe they could still play competitively, whether that means going for the wild card, now that's a different story. But the Astros desparately need prospects, and if we don't aquire any while we have a chance, our forseeable future does not look bright.
     
  13. DoitDickau

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    johan santana, loretta, mora
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    It's too early to say on Richard Hidalgo, however, it was obvious from his post that MadMax was referring to players in the last few years.
     
  15. JPM0016

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    i don't care about 9 and 10 years ago. You can make a similar list for every single team. I was referring to guys in the last 4 to 5 years.
     
  16. BigM

    BigM Contributing Member

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    every single team in baseball has a list of guys they've given away to get something for immediate impact.
     
  17. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    You're wrong. Only the Astros and Stooge McKlan has done that...
     
  18. arkoe

    arkoe (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Damn expansion draft. Too bad the front office thought Hildalgo would turn out to be better than Abreu. Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
     
  19. Jared Novak

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    IIRC, the Astros kept Derek Bell also, instead of keeping Abreu. Like the addage goes... Hindsight is 20/20.
     
  20. arkoe

    arkoe (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    That guy was a nutcase. If memory serves though, Bell at that point had had a couple of good years in a row.
     

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