[The Otto Porter Movement] First it was just an afterthought, then came the movement, and now....

Except he's like a waaaay better shooter than Ariza.

 

no thank you with that contract

 

Tilman is unable to keep Kelly Oubre next summer.

Big salary: Beal, Knight and Kelly Oubre

4 Firsts are gong.

 

He will cost 80x what Ariza will cost if hes bought out. Hes not even close to 80x better.

 

If Morey was to trade for Otto Porter Jr, it would be because Morey believes he could become more than what he already is in Washington. Morey would have to believe that the "current situation in Washington" is not maximizing Porter's potential to be more.

Morey doesn't make moves without having ways to get out of them. He makes moves that the market will bare so he can pivot.

It is less about "that guy is too expensive" and more about "if things don't work out, is the market favorable for me to pivot."

 

Sample size is small, but the best lineup that includes all 3 guards this year is a net -2.6 per 100 possessions this year. (13 total minutes together thus far)

Last year for the whol year that 3 guard lineup wasn't in their top 20 five men linups of the year, so wasn't on the court for more than 55 minutes together in total. SO not sure what the +/- would have been (bball reference only gives top 20)...

 

Yeah, using numbers this year....the start has been rocky so....

But we know the Rockets goal is to top the Warriors and the 3 guard lineup is best equipped to do it. EG having a brutal season so far isn't helping the numbers.

 

There is no better impact player out there that will allow us to keep all of our rotation players. Our financial situation is already bad anyways......wait are you Tilman?

 

Yes, the problem with Beal is that you will have to play that lineeup for longer periods of time because Beal is a star player who will demand more minutes.

 

Basically, what I'm saying is I'm not willing to surrender any major assets (EG or draft picks) to get Porter because this is your classic salary dump. Washington did this to themselves and now, armed with one of the league's highest payrolls, they're ready to blow it up and save money. Trading for Porter helps them out as much as it helps us out. It would be a different story with the other teams I mentioned, though.

Example: T.J. Warren. His numbers are great, plays a position of need, reasonable contract and plays for a team that doesn't have much to play for. My mentality isn't going to be: offer crap contracts and no assets. A move like this is going to require future draft considerations, among other things, however unlikely it may be. Much different than the Porter situation.

Like I said, I'm willing to wait it out. Eventually, the Orlando's and Brooklyn's of the world are going to plummet in the standings. After December 15th, a lot of recently signed players playing for crap teams are going to become available. Teams are going to want to blow it up. We might be able to do something like use Knight's contract to finally land James Johnson, while also upgrading our perimeter shooting by trading Chriss/filler/draft considerations to Orlando for Terrence Ross or Brooklyn for Joe Harris. Thereby spending less money, and perhaps, better utilizing our Chriss/Knight bologna sandwich we have to offer. Mind you, I'm just throwing examples out there, but I think you get the point I'm making. To each his own, though. I do agree 100% with your point about us being stretched so thin that we might have to jump on the opportunity.

 

Could you give examples of these player? You make a reasonable argument so I just wanna see who you had in mind.

 

The Rockets as it stands now have righted themselves. We'll see how it goes.

There absolutely is a case to be made for being patient to see how other teams fall apart in December and January.

BUT....those of us on the boards that want something to talk about.....are not as patient.

 

Nah bro, dont you still wanna talk about Melo???

 

The opportunity cost for Porter in terms of salary is only $48 million over 3 years (average $16 million per year) when you count the reduction of $33.5 million owing to Knight and Chriss, who are providing nothing in productivity for their salaries. However, he will probably cost more than that in additional luxury tax.

 

Why didn't they offer Porter for Butler/filler?

 

You can dump Porter's expiring contract to Kings on summer of 2020.

What is your calculation for opportunity costs?