Lol. The pro Brexit crowd has minimized the U.K.’s. history with Ireland and Northern Ireland because it poses a real challenge... This is the problem with Brexit.... it’s based off emotion. Emotion doesn’t get you legislation.
Jeremy Hunt was always a long-shot. But it appears that he may have just made a gaffe in one of the "Hustings" that will likely have the same effect as him putting a political gun to his head and pulling the trigger. Tory leadership LIVE: Brexiteer fury as Jeremy Hunt brands Leavers 'little Englanders' The Foreign Secretary, who voted to remain in the EU, was told he had "blown" his chances at becoming Tory leader when he appeared to suggest Brexiteers represented "little England" - a term often used by Remainers. When quizzed over how he plans to unite a divided nation if he became Prime Minister, Mr Hunt tweeted: "Deliver a Brexit that works for the 48% not just the 52% - a positive, open and internationalist Brexit, Great Britain not Little England #BoJoNoShow." The comment quickly sparked outrage among Brexiteers, with one tweeting: "I definitely won't be voting for you next month Jeremy. Anyone who uses the phrase Little England in a pejoritive context has blown it with me." Another said: "Little England? As a Conservative member I'm pretty sure you've just killed off any chance now. @BorisJohnson all the way Little Hunt." So, we still have almost four more weeks of this, but I suspect that the contest may have well ended here, today.
The UK government has pushed back against Chinese efforts to impose itself on the people of Hong Kong. The always prickly and insecure Chinese government has demonstrated its sense of insecurity yet again, by escalating this matter with the UK today in a rather serious manner. China threatens UK over interference in Hong Kong On Tuesday, Mr Hunt spoke out when he said he expected China to honour the 1984 treaty that guaranteed Hong Kong citizens' rights and freedoms under a “one country, two systems” arrangement after its handover in 1997. “There will be serious consequences if that internationally binding legal agreement were not to be honoured," the Tory leadership candidate said, without specifying what those sanctions could be. China’s ambassador says relations with the UK have been “damaged” after Jeremy Hunt threatened “serious consequences” over the crackdown on the protests in Hong Kong. The foreign secretary had been “totally wrong” to criticise events in the former UK colony, Liu Xiaoming said, adding: “This is not a matter about the freedom, it's a matter about breaking laws in Hong Kong.” “The UK government stood on the wrong side on the issue”, Mr Liu told an extraordinary press conference in London. “It's very disappointing when the senior officials of his calibre show support of these law-breaking people.” And, defending China’s record, the ambassador said: "We all remember what Hong Kong was 22 years ago under British rule: there was no freedom, democracy, whatever. “We all know that all governors were appointed by the British government, people had no right to elect its officials, no right to demonstrate certainly, and they did not even have a right to have an independent judicial power.” However, Mr Hunt showed no sign of backing down in an immediate tweeted response, saying: “Message to Chinese govt: good relations between countries are based on mutual respect and honouring the legally binding agreements between them. That is the best way to preserve the great relationship between the UK and China.” Mr Liu was also summoned to the Foreign Office “within the hour”, to be told by its permanent secretary that his comments were “unacceptable and inaccurate”. The communist leaders of China will not tolerate any dissent. Not even by other countries. Everybody should keep that in mind.
Also, I want to take a moment to apologize to any posters we may have from the UK and around the world for the juvenile and inappropriate behavior of the US Women's football (soccer) team during the women's world cup competition currently underway in Paris. This behavior is an embarrassment to many tens of millions of us here in the US. We want our women's teams to do well and to win, of course. But the sort of strutting, gloating, taunting and the excessive celebrations that they have periodically engaged in has been a disgrace. On behalf of those people here in the USA who still value good sportsmanship, I apologize for these women's disgraceful conduct.
The next time that he exhibits poor sportsmanship, that will be the time for me to consider your suggestion.
Great Britain never should have agreed to The Handover and the United States should have threatened military involvement when China threatened to take it by force. Disgusting cowardice displayed by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. Long after both are rotting in hell, we are dealing with their failures. The UK needs to continue to take a hard line on this, and the USA needs to start taking a hard line against China. The Chinese government and their supporters are bad people.
I agree with most of what you have said, except that there really was no way to resist the handover. The UK had previously agreed to a 99 year lease agreement on Hong Kong. That lease expired. So unless the UK wanted to go to war over Hong Kong, they really did not have a lot of choice about letting it go. Beyond that, the Chinese government is a bunch of megalomaniacal totalitarian thugs of the very worst order. It would be very difficult to exaggerate the atrocities that are routinely committed by these people. They are profoundly evil. We all need to push back against this behavior, especially when it comes to speaking out and observing these atrocities in a public way. This group is poised to be the instigator of the next devastating world war, if they continue to be appeased as they have been over the last 20 years.
Boris Johnson has pledged to take the UK out of the EU October 31, deal or no deal. So, what are the odds of Johnson winning the contest with Jeremy Hunt to become the next Prime Minister? Tory leadership odds: Boris Johnson surges ahead of Jeremy Hunt in Tory leadership race Boris Johnson now stands on his shortest odds to become the next Tory leader. According to betmakers with Ladbrokes, the ex-Foreign Secretary is now on odds of 1/8 to take the leadership bid. Jeremy Hunt, on the other hand, is now on 5/1, lagging behind. Alex Apati of Ladbrokes said: "It's hard to see anything other than Boris replacing May as Tory leader and subsequently PM." The firm also provided 1/6 odds Boris Johnson would be the next Prime Minister, and 7/4 odds Jeremy Corbyn could become Prime Minister at any point.
Mojoman relax. There are hustings every day and both candidates at this point say whatever. Hunt said he will unban fox hunting and Johnson the sugar tax. Its whatever they believe will be popular to buy votes at this point without any thought. No need to pay attention to their blabbering. They will never implement what they are promising. The important thing is that the cancellor himself said he will vote to fall the government if the new PM wants no deal. With Grieve Clarke, Gauke and the Rudd crowd its more than enough to make the new PM last for only 3 months. So whoever wins it wont make a difference. Also only americans pay attention to the womens WC anyway.
Polls in the UK suggest that Boris Johnson is likely headed to a landslide victory, as the substantial majority of Tory party members do not believe that Jeremy Hunt would actually push through Brexit without no deal, which appears to be the only way that Brexit is actually going to happen. Tory leadership race: Boris Johnson set for landslide victory, poll reveals Boris Johnson is set to storm into Downing Street with a landslide victory this month, a poll of Conservative Party members has revealed. Mr Johnson is backed to become the next party leader by 74 per cent of members, with Jeremy Hunt on 26 per cent, according to a poll taken by YouGov and The Times. The latest survey indicates most Tories do not believe Mr Hunt is prepared to take Britain out of the EU without a deal. Only 27 per cent think Mr Hunt would force through a no-deal Brexit, compared to 90 per cent for Mr Johnson.
Here is are some quotes from an article at the Independent, a unapologetically hard left newspaper in the UK. This is one of these anthropological type pieces on what Tory party members are thinking as they prepare to select the next Prime Minister of the UK. It is very much in the tone of the sorts of articles we saw here in the US from the left leaning press, shortly after the 2016 election, when the Democrat left mass media belatedly decided that it might make sense to brave some expeditions to the wilds of flyover country to see if they could find out what the deplorables were up to. ‘Well what did we have two world wars for? Fun?’ Leaving the EU is the only issue for Tory leadership voters “Oh I’ll be voting Boris. Big time. Big time. Jeremy Hunt’s a Remainer. You can’t vote for a Remainer. We’ve already had one, and Hunt’s just Theresa May in trousers. We can’t have all that again,” she says. This seems to be the predominant thinking of Tory party members in the PM race. If I am reading it right, it is already over. Sue sees Brexit as the first domino in the EU’s eventual collapse, an outcome that can’t come soon enough. “Once we go, all the others that want out will follow,” she says. “That’s why they’ve made it so difficult. Once we’re out it starts the roll. The whole thing is a shambles, it’ll all break up.” And getting out, on 31 October, is all that matters. The spending commitments, the other policies, of either candidate, do not weigh a feather in the balance. She has complete disdain for the “650 people in Westminster scuppering what 17.5 million people voted for”. The ones that “have gone against their constituents wishes should be deselected. They should be out.” This really resonates with me. Some people wonder why I am so interested in this topic, from half way around the world. Part of it is just that I am interested in international affairs. But these lines strike to the heart of why this topic resonates so strongly for me. Our forefathers (and foremothers) fought for freedom and independence. Most of us here in the US still put a profound value on our identity as free Americans. This is the British version of that. I totally dig it. This is very exciting. As far as the EU, that is a model for a larger global establishment structure to one day govern the whole world. These people are truly evil and must be resisted at all cost. And if they cannot make it work in Europe, they cannot make it work. Like Sue says in the article above, the UK leaving the EU will be a great defeat for the globalist establishment elites. What is not to like about that? The Conservative Party, throughout its long history, has one defining trait, and that is a ruthless appetite for power over any kind of ideological principle. That stuff is for the left. Brexit, in many ways, was a temporary aberration. For lots of Conservatives, it was a matter of high principle, more important than power, more important even than the party itself. This gets to the problem with political parties, not only in the UK but here in the US and everywhere. People have tended to embrace them in a tribal manner, identifying themselves in a primal way with whatever their "party" does. This is a huge mistake. As noted above, political parties exist to accumulate political power. That is not just the conservative party in the UK. It is ALL of them. Always. Political parties are not governed by principles, national identity, or deeply held personal values. But people who make nations are. So this is a message not only to the leaders of Conservatives in the UK, but to Republican party leaders here in the US and any other party leaders anywhere that have their heads screwed on properly: You are expendable. We are not here to follow you, you are here to serve us. Do it or die, and good riddance. Of course the diehard collectivists here will not be able to grok this.
