This ridiculous rhetoric that is divorced from reality sounds similar to the rest of the ridiculous rhetoric divorced from reality that you've posted in this thread thus far. What you have been posting is not "explained with science" it's EU propaganda intended to scare the UK into not leaving because if they leave it'll hurt the EU. If anything your propaganda runs counter to obvious reality. On top of that, I've never said that Greeks are "scum" or anything of that nature, I've just pointed out your obvious bias in this issue. A more accurate analogy would be you posting about how cigarettes are actually healthy and how everyone who doesn't smoke is at risk of instant death and if smoking were banned there would be blood in the streets.......and then I point out how you work for a tobacco company.
And..? You didnt elaborate what will be in place of the backstop. No backstop then what? Please describe how the border situation in the borders between the republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom will be.
The WTO trading rules and tarrifs will be in place that will also be in place between the UK and the rest of the EU.
That's like having the world record for the largest hemeroid. Just because something is possible with lots of effort, it doesnt mean there is any value or distinction in it.
And..? That pertains only to the trade of goods. Will there be free movement of people between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland? There are 300 crossing points how will they be guarded? Will the army again be used? What about the thousands of people of both countries who live in one side and they go to work in the other side of the border?
Sounds like something that countries across the world decide among themselves....so what is unique about that situation? How many crossing points are there between the US and Canada? How could they ever manage?
Each side will have to publish what their interim procedures are until they can get a longer term deal worked out. In fact the UK will require whatever they think is appropriate from people entering or leaving their country. Likewise for the EU.
That doesnt explain what will happen on 30 March. Will there be a border with guards and restricting free movement? If so it is in violation of the good friday agreement that the UK has signed.
Yes it is like countries all around the world have in their borders. Except most countries around the world havent signsigned peace treaties. The Republic of Ireland had to concede their claim on the six counties occupied by the united kingdom to sign the good friday agreement. If the UK restricts free movement it is violated and it means we are back to the troubles
Beats me. That will be up to the government of the UK, so you might want to check with them about that.
Beats you and beats them too. Thats why we are now where we are. Thats why Mays deal was put as is with the backstop and was rejected. One reason the negotiations have stalled so much was that UK government and the hard Brexiters were insisting until the start of last year that new imaginary technology will allow free movement so the good friday treaty wont be violated. It took them months to admit that such technology does not exist and will not for decades. One of Borris Johnson main points in his leave campaign was based on this technology. Its like wanting to borrow their head in the sand so the problem will go away on its own.
I don’t think they thought it would actually win, they just wanted to make a name for themselves and you do that with controversy when you aren’t competent at governing.
same with Trump's make mexico pay for a beautiful beautiful wall. he didn't know how it can be done but he promised it anyway because his supporters were so stupid and dumb. and he didn't think we was gonna be POTUS and actually held to deliver that promise.
True and also many even if they didnt buy it they just dont care. The UK is one country with four nations. The english at most care for their little brother the welsh. What happens in Scotland or in Northern Ireland is of little concern. Even now if not for the DUP who is the irish party that keeps May in power what happens with northern ireland wouldnt matter much in Westminster. Troubles, IRA, terrorism bombings? Who cares.
If Ireland remains part of the EU, they aren't a real country so I'm sure the UK would work out a deal with the EU over this issue and that would be that. If Irish terrorism becomes a problem, I'm sure that the UK would work out a deal with the EU about that as well. It's very possible that Ireland could get themselves kicked out of the EU if they cause too much problems. I mean, after all, they bring nothing to the table.
Ireland isnt a real country? Ireland will get kicked out of the EU because of terrorists? Are you drunk? L O L
Nope, when you surrender your sovereignty to a superstate like the EU you cease to be a real country. Also, yeah, if Ireland ends up with a terrorism problem they very well could get kicked out of the EU for it if they can't keep it in check. The EU wouldn't want any problems with the UK, the UK is a country that matters.....and when they leave the EU they'll be a real country again.
Okaaaaaaaayyyyyy. If in this paroxysm you meant to say that Ireland wont negotiate directly with the UK thats absolutely correct. No matter how much May is begging to be allowed to bully small Ireland, Brussels have made it clear that the one they are talking with is the whole EU27. It doesnt matter if Ireland has only 4 million people and is much weaker economically, in negotiations their lawful views are represented by the whole union. Therefore any imaginary scenario of getting Ireland to pass their claims on the uks land in northern ireland while at the same time having soldiers and checks at the borders is void. We are back at the age of terrorism. As for the ridiculous argument that Ireland will get kicked out, why? The UK has broken the peace treaty and illegally occupies land that a eu country has legitimate claim on. Plus no government is sactioned for the crimes of some individuals on foreign soil. I am sure they wont give them guns and bombs or funding they will make them on their own. As they were doing until only 20 years ago.
