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The Formal Impeachment Inquiry of Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

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    He didn't admit to that because there was no deal outlined in such a manner and why was the impeachment brought up in the first place? A quid pro quo. Your brain is fully deranged by the crap you've taken in. You are in step with the DNC, as always, who are shifting the goal posts as always.
     
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  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Our nation’s laws are not shifting goalposts.

    Not clear why (well, too clear) you refuse to face that your POTUS has bluntly solicited dirt on an American political foe.

    Quid pro quo is also terrible and also firmly in play, though much harder to prove, as everyone acknowledges.
     
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  3. T_Man

    T_Man Contributing Member

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    Honestly B-Bob,

    I think dachuda86 is just saying crap to say it.... Just to get a rise out of people...

    Even the hard core Trump supporters on this board have been very quiet.

    T_Man
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    That’s because even they realize that Trump is out of control. You can’t ask foreign governments for help in elections and you sure can’t call for a civil war because you were caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
     
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    To quote an old favorite, "Lock him up."
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    Any and everyone will be used to protect himself

    Rocket River'
     
  7. No Worries

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    Trump claims Democrats want to:

    Take away your health care;
    Take away your guns;
    Take away your vote;
    Take away your judges;
    Take away your freedom;
    Take away everything.

    Ehh this doesn't bother me, this is just politics.

    Also a lot of what he said is accurate.

    The Democrats are trying to take away private health insurance, many Democrats want to ban assault rifles and some would support an abolition on gun ownership. Democrats do want to appoint Judges with different views than those that Trump supports and taking away "freedom" can mean anything.

    What Trump is essentially doing is saying it doesn't matter if he is a POS, that conservatives should support him because he politically protects their values and interests.
     
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  10. Nook

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    Why is Ken M having sexual relations with a tiny pony?
     
  11. edwardc

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    AGAIN WORSE POTUS EVER.
     
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    Take away your health care <> replace with affordable healthcare
    Take away your guns <> ban assault riles
    Take away your vote wtf???
    Take away your judges <> appoint liberal judges
     
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    This isn't even completely accurate. Some Democrats have called for a public replacement of private insurance. Some Democrats want to ban assault rifles. Very few if any would abolish gun ownership. Appointing judges with different views that trump has? And trump and his supporters would abolish just as many freedoms as Democrats would.

    Another big issue with the video? trump standing in the white house rose garden to film the video. That's part of the people's house...
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Trump is a traitor and anyone that blindly supports him is one or is simply willfully ignorant or stupid, or both.

    DD
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    BOOM !

    DD
     
  16. Nook

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    Yup.... except many Trump supporters do not want a single payer system, they want to keep their private insurance and they would lose that.

    Many of his supporters do not want a ban on assault rifles, so they would see the loss of the ability to own as many types of guns.

    Take away their vote? if they lose the election, their vote will not matter. That doesn't even get into the Democrats discussing getting rid of the Electoral College of seeing Gerrymandering rules change; which will impact the value of their vote.

    Yes, from the perspective of conservatives, the idea of liberal Judges on the SC and other courts scares them to death.

    I am not making a judgment call on which policy is better on many of these topics...... what I am saying is that what Trump said resonates from the perspective of someone that is conservative and Christian. Their values, from their perception would be marginalized.

    Trump cannot play up her personal life or his integrity because he doesn't have any. What he can do is say that he has fought for their values and supported and fought for positions that he told his supporters he would champion. It is why @TheresTheDagger said that Trump cannot give up on building a wall, or some of his other issues.
     
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    The judge thing is 'abortion'.

    I respect the position for people who truly think it's baby murder. I'd be all for enhanced sex education for teens, over the counter plan B, free condoms in schools and stores (don't know how the water balloon problem would work), free natal care and pregnancy financial support and free adoption services.
     
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  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    They don't matter, there are not enough of them - need to put them back in the closet where their racist crap belongs.

    DD
     
  19. Nook

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    You can find issues if you want to look deep enough with anything any politician does. His film video is not something that is extreme to me, especially with so many other issues following him.

    Concerning health insurance, a number of the top Democrat candidates support a single payer system. If someone really wants to keep their private insurance, being concerned that the Democrats will enact a single payer system is certainly a justifiable concern.

    Very few democrats would support a complete ban on firearms, but many would support a ban on assault weapons and further restrictions on guns.

    Concerning Judges, absolutely Trump wants to suppress liberal Justices......... but remember Trump's audience, conservatives.

    If Warren or Biden made a video claiming that Trump or the Republicans want to suppress their supporters voting power or rights I wouldn't have an issue with it because it is true. Republicans do want to limit the voting power of minority voters and support policies to do so from gerrymandering to voter registration and to building a wall and against amnesty.

    It is all politics, and everyone from Jefferson to Lincoln to Roosevelt to Reagan has done so.
     
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  20. Nook

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    That is what elections are for DD.
     
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