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Texas Cop Who Fatally Shot Man After Entering Wrong Apartment Identified

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. mr. 13 in 33

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    Where is that detail from (that she didn’t walk in on her own)?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Look at post #3. The media does make it sound like she was in the apartment. I had forgotten that he let her in. Obviously that makes sense but makes it more stupid like a burglar would answer the door

    The question is after key not working why doesn't she realize she is at the wrong apartment
     
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    I haven't had the chance to read through this thread but so pardon me if this was discussed earlier.

    This case does point out the problems of Stand Your Ground laws where not having a the duty to retreat creates all sorts of muddy situations. In situations like this, the Trayvon Martin Case, and others one thing I often consider is what if things played out the opposite way? Guyger's defense is that she acted reasonably out of self-defense and didn't need to retreat. IN other words she stood her ground even though if she had simply retreated, allowed the door to close she could've easily resolved the situation by realizing she made a mistake. Consider the flip side of if Jean had killed Guyger. It seems like that would've been very valid under Texas' stand your ground law and castle doctrine as she was intruding in on his house. We have no way of knowing this for sure but I think a very valid argument is that Jean stood up to confront Guyger because he interrupted it as an invasion of his house and was acting in what he interpreted self-defense.

    If Guyger is found non-guilty this will show how these type of self-defense laws that do not emphasize retreat can lead to tragic results.
     
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    I would think she was at the very least trespassing so I can't see how stand your ground could apply.
     
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    These are all about selective enforcement
    had Jean killed her. . . he would spend a good portion of his life in prison
    it would not even be questioned

    Rocket River
     
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    I don’t think it should apply either but the basis of her defense is that she acted reasonably and didn’t need to retreat. It might not be specifically stand your ground but that is part of the argument.
     
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    That is very possible but if we consider that position Jean should be protected under the castle doctrine and stand your ground.

    I bought that up because any actions that Guyger might’ve interpreted as aggressive by Jean even if they were meant to be aggressive by Jean would fit in with Texas self-defense laws. My point is is that laws that don’t require retreat as the first option can lead to situations like this.
     
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    I think the jury will likely give her manslaughter.

    Yeah. If the roles were reversed, he walked into her apartment, shot her while she was eating ice cream & wearing pocketless (lol) shorts, whoo boy.
     
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    I understand you have cause to be cynical. But, honestly, I doubt he'd be charged if he shot her after she barged into his apartment.
     
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    She’s white
     
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    I would be flabbergasted
     
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    Bo's dead.
     
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    This is garbage.

     
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    This is exactly what I was talking about regarding how these stand your ground can muddy self-defense and lead to tragedies.
     
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    The castle doctrine is horribly broken if one simply has to "believe" they are on their own property. How that crap made it into law is mind boggling. If she's acquitted on those grounds there will be riots, and I can't say they won't be justified.
     
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    Apparently you can stand your ground when you break into someone else's home? This is like an Onion article come to life with not hilarious consequences.
     
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    Not surprising......she only killed a negro after all. I'm surprised she isn't getting a medal.
     

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