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Texas Cop Who Fatally Shot Man After Entering Wrong Apartment Identified

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. fchowd0311

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    So you want to bring up Martin's history of bad conduct, none of which shows psycopapthy but Zimmerman's psycopapthy tendencies don't matter at all?

    Zimmerman's story would be more credible if he showed empathy. It doesn't even have to be remorse, just basic levels of empathy. Dude merges the two worst traits. Being a half-wit and having psychopathoc tendencies.
     
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    The laws of physics target the backs of roofers.

    Deaths are deaths. There are about 20 professions in the US that have a higher death rate than law enforcement.
     
  3. Granville

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    Martin's history wasn't brought up at trial and it really didn't need to be since Zimmerman was within his rights to defend himself. You don't like it but that's the truth. Two *******'s met up an something bad happened.
     
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    LOL you accuse me of "false claims" when all I've done is stick to what we know based on testimony and evidence. It's you that is rolling with the fan fiction BS. We know Zimmerman had signs of being attacked, Martin had none other than the gunshot wound. Speculating that he was attacked is entirely baseless fan fiction BS.

    When you stick to the facts there's only one scenario you can suggest is most likely, that the kid who loved to fight by his own admission decided to attack the wrong person and paid the price for that foolish act. His death was not a tragedy, it was crime prevention. Let's stop wasting our time talking about pieces of **** like Martin and Zimmerman and get back to talking about the innocent man that is dead.....you know, the focus of this thread to begin with.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    One ******* who shows signs of psychopathic tendencies followed another individual walking to his farher's residence in the middle of the night and from there we only have the word of the psycopath. From all we know, Zimmerman could have instigated the fight like a psycopathic dumbass and Martin having the physical upper hand came out on top.

    The difference in who came out alive was the psychopath had a firearm.
     
  6. Granville

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    What's the murder rate with roofers on the job, which is really what we're talking about here with officers?
     
  7. Granville

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    Enough is enough of the Martin talk here. Open the other thread. You lost the case like you lost the election and with both you're still crying.
     
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    When someone dies unexpectedly, does the dead person care if it is from another human or some other circumstance?

    Your logic basically discredits the courage of professions like Firefighters. That profession has a relatively high death rate but not a murder rate. Are you going to claim they are less courageous because their deaths aren't murders?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Who's bringing up the election? You are swinging at air at this point.

    At first it was law enforcement being infallible and above criticism. Now it's the presidency. You should move to an authoritarian regime. You might like it better. The politicians and law enforcement are also placed on a pedestal there and are above reproach.
     
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  10. Granville

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    No, actually I'm not. I was comparing it to the dumbass roofer comparison you made. Soldiers, Firefighters and Police deserve our respect for putting their lives on the line to protect others. You saying that police don't deserve the praise they get is disrespectful and stupid.
     
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    Damn not gonna lie, chowd broke this down beautifully.
     
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    My point was in regard to all unhinged behavior from the left after both events.
     
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    I don’t think you understand how analogies work. You can’t say A is ok because of such and such principle and then refuse to apply those same rules to B. Defying it is by definition being illogical.
     
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    Oh ok. Great nuance there.
     
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    The dead person doesn't care of course. The people who the dead person put their life on the line to protect do.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    A position of authority especially a profession that can be easily abused like law enforcement does not deserve automatic respect. It should be earned. Law enforcement should be seen as a service to a community, not a profession where you sign up and assume automatic praise and respect because you hold a title.

    That's what leads to entitled abusive cops who think they are above the law.
     
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    lol - for calling a white guy a N-word? So all those black guys that use it daily must be really racist
    Martin had run away. If Zimmerman was walking back to his car as you claimed (which would be in nearly the opposite direction), Martin would have had to run back faster than he initially ran away to catchup with Zimmerman.

    So you run away from a guy, see his no longer following you, then you run back faster to ask him why he was following you? lol
    It does cos it expresses that Zimmerman thinks Martin should not be there, and is in-line with his expressed opinion that Martin was a criminal.
    Nothing disjointed about it.
    You just cant resist justifying his death by devaluing him as a criminal. None of those prior events has any bearing on the events of that night, and your claim that he wanted to show off has no basis except for your persistent attempt to devalue him
    It is not proven but follows logically from the facts available. Also, never said he was afraid for his life, as I doubt he was expecting a life threatening encounter walking home. He was on his way home and all facts point to him being pursued by GZ.
    Again with the character attacks, why not stick with the facts that are available or why wont you say that Zimmerman was a racist (given what we now know) and killed him cos he was black?

    There is more to jury case than the facts of it, A lot depends on the ability of the lawyers to convince the jury, which implicitly depends on the composition of the jury and legal teams. I have had enough exposure to the legal system to appreciate this. The jury composition matters a lot e.g. the lady that was asking what was Martin doing outside and the one with a problem jailing someone, should have both been removed.
    There is nothing, beyond zimmernan's dubious account to substantiate that nothing physical happened before Martin punched him. It is more likely Z tried to grab martin to stop him from running away before martin punched him, which is more believable than he ran back after me and suddenly attacked me
    Zimmerman was not a cop!
    then you must be a shithole to have gone thru so much crap!
    yet - based on your repeated ref to Martin's character, given enough time, you will likely get round to it, wherein you can justify why he was shot.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Your mentality of automatic respect for law enforcement is what enables random chads with a power trip with nothing more than a high school education or a joke associates degree in criminal justiJu desire a career in law enforcement. Their motivation to be a cop doesn't stem from a notion of wanting to serve their community, but rather be placed in a position of authority that that places them on a pedestal.

    It's part of the reason why we have so many dick head cops. It attracts the right type of douchebag.
     
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    Its a false claim cos you assigned to me an an assertion I had not made.

    What you have done is ignored logic and interpreted available information to present a narrative that suited your view and /or objective. Also interesting is how willing you are to rely heavily on the testimony of the accused, when earlier in this same thread you regarded witness as quite unreliable.

    A very basic flaw in your narrative is your claim that "that the kid who loved to fight by his own admission decided to attack the wrong person" but which clearly does not fit with the established fact that the same kid ran away. If he so loved to fight and was willing to fight Zimmerman, why did he run away? Your claim is like your partner in crime's repeated baseless claim that he was trying to impress his GF. Like I stated earlier, it is more fitting with established facts and logic that Zimmerman tried to accost him and things escalated physically from there.

    When people like you try to devalue others to justify their wrongful death, it is up to those who know better to call you out on it and state the facts for the record. Martin's character may be terrible but it is no justification for Zimmerman shooting him, and your constant reference to it only shows your true motive of trying to normalize such crimes and killing.

    BTW your feigned interest in justice for Botham Jean is hilarious, given that your biggest contribution to this thread is how Guyger should get away with the killing cos she is a cop and shot him in self-defense. Its better to not waste your effort on fake sincerity that most of us know you are not capable of.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    There's a fairly massive difference between an eyewitness account of what happened a few hours before compared to several decades later...and there are other issues with that several decades later "memory" since it is inconsistent and wholly lacking in detail....except for who to accuse.

    I pointed out that you were relying on fan faction since the facts and testimony that we have doesn't suggest the narrative that you wish happened. You wish Martin was a victim instead of a violent ******* who just attacked the wrong person. If you dismiss literally the only evidence we have in favor of a scenario you dreamed up based on nothing whatsoever then there's just no one that can help you, it's clear you are too far gone.

    In the Martin-Zimmerman case, you have 1 eyewitness and you have evidence that supports their version of what happens. You'll just have to accept the fact that trumps your fan fiction.
     

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