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Tea Party Federation Kicks Out Group Over Racist Writing

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    how is it inuendo, someone from the tea party, denounced someone from the tea party. its a factual account, the whole reason for the freakin thread

    Lawd have mercy
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Wow.

    1. Randomly introduce KKK into conversation about the tea party.
    2. Express dismay at something which does not exist: other posters comparing KKK to the tea party.
    3. Compare KKK to NAACP*
    4. Say you only did step 3 to fight off (your own) step 2.
    5. Express why KKK is actually a good comparison to NAACP.
    6. Retreat to step 4.
    7. ???
    8. Return to friends in tea party, with stories of how liberals compared tea party to KKK today but how you fought them off and told them the truth.

    judoka, bless him, has been very reasonable and calm is setting forth your many errors of both judgment and fact in this thread. Would you please reply to him at all, or in any detail?

    And here, just so you can ignore most of my post, focus on one little bit and say I'm only hurling insults:
    does it hurt when you think?


    * = is the NAACP this month's AKORN ? Haven't we wrung every drop and dollar out of the fear-of-dark-people snot rag yet? Probably not. :(
     
  3. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    It's innuendo people!

    Two n's after the I!
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    what are you trying to ensinewate?
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Good for the NAACP. I'm glad they are taking a stand against racism within their ranks. That shows honorable intent.

    Sadly thumbs doesn't appear willing to stop calling the organization racist, and doesn't appear to want to address this post (probably the most substantive in the whole thread). It would make for some interesting discussion if he, or anyone else who has ever even sympathized with the tea party would address it.

    You have done your part for meaningful discussion. Just as Gladiator/Andy and others have done in countless other threads with people like thumbs, saintcougar and others, but just like always, people run away when substantive debate rears its head.
     
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You're sick dude. You really need a reality check. Go read some history or something.
     
  7. Oski2005

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    Well it looks like they overreacted and once again a good person loses a job because of edited videos from Breitbart.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Thanks because thumbs and basso are just ruffling everyone's feathers for the sport of it. They are taking fun out of aggravating you guys.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    That's too bad. I saw that, and was dismayed. It's a shame when people get scammed like this and end up taking a fall for something they aren't guilty of.

    The thing about it is, that most of us can look at the ALL the facts, and the WHOLE story and realize it was wrong. There are a few here who don't appear to be able to do that. They form an form an opinion that fits their outlook, and then refuse to look at facts that could change it.
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    You're not getting any stronger using "logic" like you have exhibited in this thread. You are drowning and the sad part is you can't even see it.
     
  11. thumbs

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    Good morning, one and all!

    First, in response to those who felt I was running away, I do have other responsibilities and interests. I had to help my girlfriend with her tea party last night, and it lasted well into the night. After I run with the dog, shower, shave, eat breakfast and make sure my clients' needs are served, I shall return (ooh, sounds familiar ;) ).
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    That very well may be the case but as your own posting history should tell you its hard trying to ruffle others feathers without getting your own ruffled.

    Also just posting to rile people up is the definition of a "Troll".
     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It does not appear to me that either of them are having their feathers ruffled.

    And I don't consider them trolls because one, they are more laying bait out and setting traps than they are hunting for victims...and other posters are trying to rile them up (or ruffle their feathers) as well - so it's not a one-way exchange here. I find it hard to believe that their victims are completely unaware of their tactics and aren't playing along to some degree to get their counter-shots in. They could easily have their teeth completely taken out by simply not going for the bait.

    As I said in another thread, they see themselves as agent provocateurs. And they very might well be that.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    I've seen both of them resort to insults quite often which to me is a sign of getting your feather's ruffled.

    You and I have a different definition of "troll". To me someone who just lays out post with little to no reflection or analysis just to get a rise is a troll. It doesn't matter whether others react or not.

    I will agree though that Thumbs is at least willing to debate the issue and offers his own insight.
     
  15. gifford1967

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    If they are agent provocateurs they must be working for Move On.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Ha! They certainly are not representing the right particularly well.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I suppose but these past few threads they seem rather in control.

    When I first came on here like 9 years ago or whatever, it was mostly liberal and the conservatives on here were so blind to the fallacy of invading Iraq I decided to parody it. Well, what happened was that even innocuous posts meant to be ridiculous would get these crazy responses from the left posters filled with arrogance and high-handedness. So when I seriously tried to address the holes in their arguments, I got called names and such.

    I realized that....you know what? - it's really tough to be a conservative poster in this forum...and I don't blame them for trying to defend everything and turning every argument around and spitting it back on liberals because they see a certain level of hypocrisy from the past.

    I understand that these guys see liberals attack the Tea Party as racist, so when something about the NAACP comes out, they are going to through it right back at the liberals here. They got a chip on their shoulders. And it's just an eye-for-an-eye to them. Same thing about Obama - basso bashes Obama because of all the years Bush got bashed.

    Do they take enjoyment out of it? Absolutely...does it make them trolls? Not so sure. Because although these threads are meant to instigate - they are also a reaction to the past threads from the other side.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I just don't buy that. Yes there are certainly liberals who behave like asshats (I won't name names) and pretty much everyone no matter what politcal leaning will make forceful arguments. There is a big difference though in just making forceful arguments and acting like an ass because you feel like you are being bullied.

    I've heard this argument plenty of times that the conservatives feel like they are outnumbered and have to resort to all sorts of pettiness to hold their own. For one the liberals (and in the mind of those feeling they are persecuted is anyone who doesn't think Obama is a Socialist) don't agree on everything. Just consider Glynch and how much he debates other liberals in regard to Chavez. Heck just watch me and Deckard have a debate on JFK. Even though we disagree we can still have a reasoned debate.

    The mistake that I often see, both here and in other forums, is that people cannot disagree with doing so in a civilized manner.
    Thumbs hinted at this earlier and I don't buy that either. Since the other side I have a pass to behave like an ass. As I told him that is why these debates get bogged down in acrimony.
    You are only looking at trolls based on what type of response. I don;t think that has anything to do with it. A troll is someone who has no interest in actually discussing an issue but just post.

    And now this thread has been further derailed.
     
  19. thumbs

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    And on that note, I shall re-enter the fray.

    First, I thought this was going to be an easy morning, but crises have dominated the day. Apologies. I'm going to backtrack with some answers so I am going to get behind as more responses are generated.

    RJ, I'm okay with your assessment that I am a troll because I use a modified Socratic method to probe aspects of an issue. Rather than stay silent in the midst of a herd mentality, I pose statements rather than questions, but statements I feel contain truth, even if overstated at times.

    For example, I said the NAACP and the KKK require the continuation of racism because, without it, they would cease to exist. Their platforms, as well as the funding that supports them, would vanish overnight. Hence, they obverse sides of the same coin with one being more palatable and historically beneficial than the other. No one attacked that truth -- that racism was necessary to their very existence. Instead, I received indignation that anyone would posit such a view, but no refutation, although Sweet Lou -- and you to a lesser degree -- did try.

    Now, I confess I can return an insult with some vigor when I should just ignore posters like Jones who now have little to add to a legitimate discussion. Whereas I am generally patient, my Hispanic temper at times can burst forth from the heart to the pen. It is a weakness I do need to conquer.
     
  20. thumbs

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    Disagree -- I can get my feathers ruffled, but, as I just replied to RJ and earlier explained to groogrux, I pose civil answers to civil replies and vitriolic replies to vitriolic posts. I shall attempt to curb that tendency, but I am a fan of Cyrano. BTW, I don't mind being insulted as long as it is done with a modicum of wit mixed with truth. Pure name calling is a boor performed by the boorish.

    I believe "agent provocateurs" are critical to this board. There are a few who think through different positions and posit rational arguments for or against. These are the posters I most respect. Many are just quarrelsome and can't stand having their sacred cows touched let alone branded without knowing why they believe as they do.
     

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