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Syria attack: John McCain says Trump's troops talk 'emboldened' Assad

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. shorerider

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    https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2018/04/12/us-attack-syria-could-lead-nuclear-war

    "A leading veterans’ organization is warning that a U.S. attack on Syria could lead to a nuclear war. Russian military forces in Syria will undoubtedly be among the targets of U.S. missiles. Russia has said it will shoot down U.S. missiles, and attack the “platforms from which they are fired,” i.e. U.S. ships.

    “Why the rush to war?” asked Gerry Condon, president of Veterans For Peace. “Why is the mass media cheerleading for war instead of asking hard questions? Why are Democratic and Republican politicians trying to out-do one another with calls for ever more massive attacks on Syria?

    “There is no proof yet of a Syrian government gas attack, only a video made by a fundamentalist rebel group that wants more U.S. intervention. Even if the reports are true, a military response will only lead to more death and destruction, and dangerous escalations.

    “We are talking about a direct confrontation between the two nuclear superpowers,” said Gerry Condon. “Why would the U.S. risk nuclear war over dubious chemical weapons claims?

    “Veterans have longer memories than the press and the politicians,” said Condon. “We remember how we were lied into the Iraq War with false reports of ‘weapons of mass destruction.’ U.S. wars throughout the Middle East have caused millions of deaths and destroyed entire societies. Our soldiers and their families have also paid an extremely high price.”

    “Veterans, GI’s and their families will not accept another war based on lies,” said Gerry Condon. “We will be protesting in the streets, in the suites, at media outlets and at military bases.

    All military personnel, from low ranking GI’s to the top generals and admirals, have an obligation to disobey illegal orders. Orders to carry out acts of war against a sovereign nation that is not threatening the U.S. are illegal orders.

    “We swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” said Gerry Condon, president of Veterans For Peace. “Right now those enemies are those who would rush our country recklessly into another devastating war.” "
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I didn't blame Obama for anything that happened recently. Dial it down. Don't project so much. It's irritating correcting that ish. You're taking my thoughts and wilding with them

    Just read the post and respond to the post. Tired of saying no that's not what I wrote
     
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    It's interesting or more like irritating that the media now loves McCain's war mongering as it's disagreeing with Trump. Same bomb bomb Iran guy.

    How does McCain feel about Iran treaties? He s still a war mongerer despite who is President

    Ridiculous
     
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    So now you like war mongering. If Trump says we do you think it's wrong?

    Cause you don't like Trump American servicemen should die?

    Get a grip bro
     
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    Trump has turned all of you into opposite George and it's sad
     
  7. No Worries

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    Back on point.

    Trump publicly states that he is directing his generals to get the hell out of Syria.

    Days later, Bashar al-Assad uses chemical weapons against his enemies.

    Coincidence or correlation?

    You could have made the argument of ... Correlation does not imply causation. But you chose to play the "it silly to blame Trump" card.

    I am not 100% sure that Trump "loose lips" lead to the use of chemical weapons. More like 90%.
     
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    It probably has something to do with your posts being borderline incoherent.
     
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    So buying into this logic, Assad wants to fight America because you're essentially saying he is provoking us to stay in Syria
     
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    After Iraq I'm listening to guys like McCain on military action
     
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    UK staged it, again.
     
  13. No Worries

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    Assad thought the USA would not care, since we were heading to the exit.
     
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    .

    Do you think we should be there?
     
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    then he wasted his forbidden, valuable chemical weapon on children and women, at the very end of a winning war? It doesn't make sense.

    It is more like a setup to drag USA back in. The losers are good at this.
     
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    Trump is likely to respond asymmetrically, so Assad may end up losing most of his air force.

    We will see.
     
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    He should have moved that stuff across the border(s) already. Russia's had time to get their stuff out of the way. We're going to drop bombs on some ineffectual Syrian "infrastructure" and call it a day, just for show. I wish I knew what the right answer was over there (the entire region), but frankly there is not one.
     
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    Dog wagging time...

     
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