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Sources: Rockets have eyes on Jimmy B

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. CCorn

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    @cyberx what’s your favorite hot sauce
     
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    Who you calling Yoko Ono here? The girl in the center of the photo?
     
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    It’s the good ole yoga mat, ladder, air duct with a draw string joke
     
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    And he's a lock up defender.
     
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    Just when other teams think they've got a trade lined up for Butler, Morey be like

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    I can see 2 scenarios

    1. Butler agrees to sign an extension after this year and the Rockets trade the farm...Gordon, Tucker and 1 or 2 picks

    Or

    2. Rockets gamble on Butler and trade Gordon and other pieces (trying to keep Tucker) and no picks. Eother way, the team will try convince Butler to resign or trade him to his destination and get assets back.
     
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    Grab the brass ring?
     
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    I don’t know if I would call Gordon Hayward overrated. He’s not ever labelled as a top 15 player or anything by anyone. He’s considered a very solid basketball player and he really is. He’s paid a lot but I wouldn’t say he didn’t deserve it
     
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    I’d say Harden top 3, Paul top 10, and Butler top 15...Melo top 1000 sounds about right :D

    I agree, u gotta stack up as much talent as possible
     
  10. YOLO

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    one thing is true. a lot of people use the word overrated way too much without actual context. it's the gimmick excuse to show dislike for a player while not using logical reasoning
     
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    Because Yoko Ono.

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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    yes spelled backwards is SEY
     
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    Butler is overrated around here because a lot of posters post about him as if he were a top 10 player. He's not.

    There are a lot of negatives about Butler. He's had issues with teammates in both stops now. He has injury issues. He's not a great 3 point shooter. He wants to be ball dominant. Etc. etc.

    He's a good player though. He's definitely top 20, where is probably a personal choice kind of thing.

    I'm not convinced we are better team with him in and Gordon and Tucker out personally. Will Butler want to stand around and shoot for large periods of the game? He's not a better creator than CP3 or Harden. Hell Gordon doesn't love that role. Someone has to do that though. We already have one star who checks out when he isn't creating. I'd be very curious to see information about whether Butler will run around screens and play off the ball. Off ball offense is something Gordon brings us that we really need.
     
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    I agree with a lot of this post but i honestly haven't seen anyone call him a top 10 player. the general consensus is he is an all star player which he is. And when you get a chance to get a legitimate player like that you do so for the most part. I get that perspective.

    The younger Butler in chicago was that type of player as far as screens and off ball. That was obviously when he was trying to establish himself as a player in the league and he's definitely not that same player anymore. But it's not crazy to say he's isn't capable of that kind of role and still do alot of the things he has gotten better at especially offensively.

    But the question is is Butler at the point where he wants to be a sidekick or looking to be a franchise player and get paid before he hits 30. It seems like the latter
     
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    And if you replace the Y with a V it’s SEV.

    We are getting Lebron
     
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    Isn't this a false dichotomy? I mean, you'd want Paul George, right? He was going to get paid no matter where he went...and all his preferred destinations appeared to be as "sidekick."

    Max does not equal "I have to be the Man". It's just means Butler wants the same pay as PG13 and Kevin Love.

    This is a problem with an artificial Max salary, when us fans declare Max pay = "Guys who demand to be The Man, and worth it". People who get Max don't have to be The Franchise. But due to artificial Max, the true Franchise players can't get paid more, except now with accelerated tenure track Super Max.

    Let's not get stuck on a PG/Butler age comparison (PG 2yrs younger), or whether Butler deserves the $30m Max. I'm just trying to say that he can get paid and be fine with being a "sidekick." Kevin Love is same age as Butler, and he just got a 4yr / $30m extension...and he's a sidekick "specialist" now.
     
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    yeah i really meant it along the lines of being the face of his own franchise, as opposed to being a sidekick on houston for example where it's harden's team
     
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    got it. And you'd be right to say that, if that odd list of 3 teams is really what he most prefers.
     
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