Sources: Celtics approached the Rockets on interest in Gordon Hayward

Boston will tell LAL to take a hike. The Rockets need a Hayward type to add to Paul. GH is not an adequate replacement for Chris under any circumstances.

 

Rather have KCP and Rondo expiring and go after one of Durant/Leonard/Butler/Irving/Kema/Thompson

 

I don't think we would have the cap space just by unloading CP3?

 

We could pay to dump Knight, and Gordon would be an easy salary to move as well. Leaving us with just Harden, Capela and Tucker, which would open up a max.

 

Fans actually want Chris Paul traded? Have these morons realize the Rockets problem is the bench?

 

and Starting SF ... trash ennis

 

They still think M&lo was the only problem....so no lol

 

Thank you...

 

Slowly coming back to form, 30/7/4 last night and a game winner tonight.

 

He’ll be good for Celtics next year with more mins, Kyrie will be gone so he will be able to bring up the ball more

 

I wouldn't say that. He averaged like 6ppg for the 5 games before that.

I think he'll be better next season but people are ignoring the fact that he is too small to be a PF and too slow to be a SF. The game has accelerated quickly since he was last a full time player. Even if he had never gotten injured, I suspect he would not be as successful right now as he was with the Jazz. His 3pt shot was always shaky. His defense always suspect.

Going to take a lot of work both on fitness and jumper just to make him a 6th man of the year candidate imo. I think he will do it though and give them quality minutes backing up the 3 and 4 minutes. Which kind of sucks for the Celtics given they're paying him $30m+ but they can get real value out of him.

As far as whether anyone should acquire him, I would say not unless you're a bench player away from winning it and have the cap room to absorb a bad contract. Two years remaining after this one is not the absolute worst thing in the world.

 

What? The game hasn't accelerated that quickly in the last 2 years.

It's gotten a "little" more open... principally because more teams accept moreyball and the league changed the OReb shot clock to 14, and added a freedom of movement rule.

None of those are inherently bad for Gordon Hayward pre-injury. In the three years before his injury he shot 40%, 35% and 36% from three. On volume. You could have looked this up. He was super consistent near all-star level player those last three years.

The issues this year seem to be almost exclusively (i) injury return, and (ii) the Celtics chaos.

Neither of those are guaranteed to get better. He may never get there. I don't know if he'll ever get "back to form" or not. Every serious injury and person recovering is different.

Relative to the Celtics issue, this is a week old, but there was an interesting stat/discussion about Hayward's stats with/without Kyrie playing the game:

I wouldn't risk acquiring him in the offseason... but I would note it would definitely be "classic" risk. High variability outcome.

I think its most likely he slowly does get back to form somewhat, even if never his last year in Utah type player, but a guy that can give you mid teens on decent everything (efficiency, boards, assists, defense). Frankly, while he's not returning to what he was... he is in some ways coming around. He's been much more efficient scorer the last 14 games. He shot 51% overall in February and 44% from three. He's shooting 60% overall and 36% from three in March.

 

The league has accelerated because it's constantly becoming more athletic at a faster pace, and he was never going to become more athletic. Same reason Melo and Ryno became 0's despite contributing to winners in the not so distant past.

His shooting 35% and 36%, that's not strong at all. Definition of average. He was 30 before that, then 41, 34 and 47. Currently 33%. That's shaky as hell year to year. What was keeping him efficient was his ability to get to the line 6 times. By next season he will struggle to stay with SF's imo, and he will not have the length/height/strength to guard PF's.

If he's smart he'll repurpose his career and if things miraculously come back, it's a huge bonus.

 

took 2 years for pg13 to get back to a high level. Hayward will be ok. He wasn't going to get it all back right off the bat, especially with boston having a number of guys who want/need to play. We still see hes very much still talented. if they round into a good rhythm as the playoffs come around, yeah thats definitely not good for the rest of the east.

 

Gordon Parsons

 

People still want to trade Chris Paul? The forum never disappoints.

 

To me he is a more versatile but not as accurate Joe Ingles that makes $30M+. Am I way off with that assessment?

 

I might have missed a post on this last page, but I think the CP3 trade things you see were from earlier this season, before the Night King resurrected this thread.

 

Not too far off. Right now this moment, Ingles is better or as good at every single thing except driving to the basket. Plus he clearly has the strength to play the 4.

 

Hayward and Tatum for AD and Solomon Hill.