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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

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    There is no impotence. He ran on being tough on immigration, that illegal aliens were rapist and killers and some were good people. Now he is shutting it down. He lies his ass off, and is very powerful, your idiom is bullshit.
     
  2. adoo

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    Trump is so weak, that

    despite
    repeatedly saying / tweeting that he hates to see children being separated from parents,
    and his party is in control of Congress,
    he is too afraid.

    constipated w fear of backlash from his base
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    to call his own AG Sessions / DHS to end the child separation policy


     
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  3. Bandwagoner

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    so Trump says they are rapists and you call him racist, but you 100% believe he hates arresting illegals. Your account is a paraody
     
  4. adoo

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    Bingo

    the best the Trump cult follower / sheep can do is to offer a false equivalency which, effectively,
    amounts to the waving of the flag of surrender​
     
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  5. Senator

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    Frequently posted in the Stros forum + lebron rumors. I would love to find people capable of debating based on the facts, rather than throwing a picture of a kid in detention hall (because of his parents negligence) and abusing Trump. I don't like trump either, but there's nothing I can do about a billionaire megalomaniac who has never had to answer to anyone. What I do see are effective policies being enacted to curtail real issues. There's alot of finger pointing by people who refuse to take accountability for their own actions, or the actions of those on "their side of the argument".
     
  6. RocketsLegend

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    Build The Wall
     
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  7. Senator

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    Accountability and adult responsibility are clearly not a part of Latin American culture - Latin Americans need to address this issue or they will cause themselves far too much pain. The kids have a superior living condition in the camps despite their parents irresponsibility - air conditioning, food, clean beds - things they wouldn't have if they lived illegally. Enrique Nieto needs to grow a spine and address these problems with the hundreds of thousands of his citizens who come over illegally with kids.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    But who were you before? Since you've obviously done some rebranding with this new moniker.
     
  9. bongman

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    So with all the F'ups that Trump did, has he taken any responsibility from any of it? How many people got jailed from the wall street crash? How about the false WMD on Iraq killing thousands of individuals, which leader was put in jail? In an America where people in power are not held accountable for their actions and you generalize Latin Americans?

    If you have kids, would you be in favor of them living with somebody who is much richer than you since your justification is better living conditions?
     
  10. Senator

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    An arm for an arm does not heal the world.

    We have always known that people born into billions can do things people born into nothing cannot. Why pretend like we are equal in this regard?

    You can delve into history and go throughout an infinite number of scenarios that are "unfair". Nothing will come of it. But that doesn't mean the people born into nothing have a right to be stupid and expect the best. Illegals are putting themselves in this situation - America is not. By having kids they can't afford then being negligent and committing acts out of desperation. Laws exist and to pretend they don't then play the victim - you only hurt yourself. Nieto would do well to grow a spine and tell his people this .... if he really wants to make a change. I don't like Trump but I cannot blame him here as the lethargic approach of Latin Americans to this issue needs a hard slap.
     
  11. B-Bob

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    Ah, what a little gem this is. And so helpful for triangulating identity.

    Maybe these detention centers can teach these tainted waifs some superior culture at least -- would you say?

    Accountability being such a bigly part of America right now, I mean... Starting with our leaders.
     
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  12. bongman

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    I agree people are not born equal but it doesn't mean the "can't have" can't have. Are you perfectly fine with the idea that if somebody is poor, that person does not have a right to find more comfortable ways of living?

    Why would we think that they are expecting the best? I can't think of any reason why a whole family would prefer to go live in a different place where they mostly can't speak the language, no money, little education, no papers, which can get them legally employed - other than wanting to SURVIVE.

    If you wanna go back through history, humans, just like any social creature has relied upon the community for survival. That's why we are here and that is why we are the most dominant species as we speak.

    Whom exactly is getting the blunt of that hard slap?

    What Trump is doing is using these kids as hostage. He has blamed the democrats for this situation so this has to happen. I will keep doing this until you sign my immigration bill is his message. Tell me if that is anything close to moral?
     
  13. body slam

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    Do away with the mexican cartel and corruption?
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    We should pass a law and make it illegal, that would fix it.
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    Well sure, the executive is powerful. But my idiom was meant for you, not Trump. The left's objective isn't for their to be no one detained but for them to be treated humanely. You lied to make a point. Is it the right's objective to use children as a deterrent and as a bargaining chip?
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    bold claim, completely false, and impossible to backup.
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Meh. I know the truth.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    the truth is you just post accusations with merit
     
  19. Senator

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    I don't find trump, Bush or any of the Clinton's to be moral. They are power hungry politicians , and their morals vary according to what situation they are in. People care about the $ they generate, not morals!

    You cannot pretend like nation boundaries do not exist and the most powerful nation in the world is lawless. Thise being detained have shown no ability to breed responsibly and repeatedly risk their lives so the kids can be us citizens. Is this selfish or for the community? When you make poor decisions, you compromise the community. America is not the only country in the world , and it certainly doesn't guarantee them the best life picking oranges until they cant move anymore. How is the wealthiest, most liberal man in the world Jeff Bezos treating legal citizens of the US? Its global capitalism and it requires there to be a boundary between the haves and have nots. Socialism hasn't worked without brutality and incompetence. You need proper channels to go through or the whole system collapses.

    I've asked for answers about occupational trades for illegal immigrants and their kids. Would it be beneficial to legalize and use them for low cost labor? Are they taking away any jobs legal citizens desire? Or are they solely being exploited. The poor should have all the opportunity to rise.. but you have to make sacrifices. You have to change the mentality of having as many kids as possible to seem prosperous and happy, because they crumble under that weight + hurt the overall community. We have finite resources. This would also strengthen the economies of third world nations that the migrants come from. Allow them to organize and use that peace of mind to make smarter decisions.

    I am a child of blue collar parents who made these decisions and I benefitted as a result. You can show me all the pics of crying kids you want, but it's the parents who anger me, as well as the host nations. Common sense.
     
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  20. Spooner

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    LOL wow you just can't help yourself
     

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