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So Morey's legacy is buying high and selling low on CP3, Lin, Anderson, and Westbrook?

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  1. JCDenton

    JCDenton Member

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    The guy desperately overpaid for whichever player was the flavor of the month, handing out ridiculous, bad contracts or coughing up massive draft considerations that no other team would have paid. Then shortly thereafter, these franchise altering contracts are bad deals that the Rockets have to pay again to get rid of.

    As you all know, I never wavered from my position that Morey was a fraud and a charlatan, even while everyone else here was drinking the koolaid. I tried to explain to you all, using detailed statistical analysis, what a disaster of a GM he was. To the credit of all of Clutchfans, many sensible posters eventually admitted that they were wrong and recognized my genius. However, many more did not.

    Even I was caught off guard by how badly his last string of moves worked out. I did not believe it was possible to destroy a franchise this badly, even if one was trying to do so. But nonetheless, Morey gave up a first round pick to get CP3, then signed him to an absurd, negative-value extension. Unsurprisingly, the aging Chris "Grandpa" Paul was unable to play up to that extension, although he still had value as a decent starter.

    Flailing and sputtering, Morey then traded Paul at his lowest value for Westbrook, giving up 4 first round picks/swaps, a haul that normally would be reserved for a valuable franchise player in his prime. Soon thereafter, Paul recovered for another team and greatly raised his value. Westbrook, on the other hand, quickly became valueless and untradeable. The only way to dump him was to take on an even worse contract with a player making massive dollars, terrible injury history, peak years not as good as Westbrook's worst years. In fact, Wall's trade value is probably much lower than CP3s right now. How many picks would it take to get rid of him and translate him into a tradeable contract? Another 3-4?

    Pretty sure losing 8+ first-rounders to cycle through several aging "star" point guards who have never won anything isn't the best way to maximize franchise value. I'll have to run the graphs on it through.
     
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    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Morey traded for James Harden.

    /end
     
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    No one knew what to expect from CP3 coming back from that quad injury. Most were surprised with his durability last season. No guarantee that is going to hold.
     
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    Amen
     
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  6. JCDenton

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    Your GM shouldn't be among the "most" who were surprised.
     
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    Always the ones who lack the actual research being done to be the one with the worst threads
     
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    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H
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    "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

    - Mark Twain
     
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  9. JCDenton

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    Oh I'm afraid this thread will be quite operational for a long time to come.
     
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    When you are trying to appease your diva superstar you have to do things you might not otherwise.
     
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    I mean, if you keep bumping the thread and people come in here to pile on you, of course this thread can go on for a while. Really up to you on how much punishment you want to take.
     
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    So the Grinch returns to spoil everyone's holidays, and he didn't even bother to bring charts.
     
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    Can't believe you're all taking the bait.

    JCDenton is a proven troll
     
    #13 Damion Laverne, Dec 9, 2020
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    Yes! JCDenton advanced statistics. Here is the graph.

    He’s right you know.
     
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    Says every team who has a superstar player.

    What's your point?
     
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    Morey is the opposite of Presti.

    Morey succeeded in one huge trade but made many smaller mistakes which costed us chances to win.

    Presti made one huge mistake but made many smaller successful moves.

    Morey, generally bad at drafting doesn't value FRPs.

    Presti, amazing at drafting and loves FRPs.
     
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    He admitted he didnt expect Harden to be this good and Cuban said every team wouldve taken Harden and he was pissed off that Oklahoma never reached out. It was OKC who reached out to Hou not the other way around. 80%luck
     
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    Watch out for the thread police.
     
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  19. lnchan

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    Did the original poster declare himself a very stable genius or just genius?
     
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    Some truth to that. The trade package they put together was not really intended for Harden. Before Harden was made available that same package a year prior was intended for Dwight Howard then Carmelo Anthony. Presti contacted Houston because Houston had shopped that superstar trade package for so long everyone knew it was for sale so it was the perfect situation for Presti to not have to go to market with Harden.

    Still Morey's legacy will still be that he did what few GM's had done before in staying competitive while rebuilding a contending team via very unique trades & finding value in Billy Beane type of ways. I don't think too many people will fault him for the Westbrook trade especially since it was on the heals of Harden pulling this drama fest.
     
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