[Silicon Valley] Apple iPhones: Brought to you by automation

A. Automation accounts for 6 out of every 7 manufacturing jobs taken out of market. The other 1 in 7 is due to cheaper labor overseas.
B. If you are really upset by this, then you must support TPP which serves to incentivize manufacturers to work with non-Chinese countries and open up more markets to u.s. exports.

 

Apple has long been known as a cheap and elitist company from the inside and outside.

The koolaid is strong at Cupertino.

 

6 out of 7 statistics are made up. The other 1 of 7 is always a Sweet Lou statistic. I bet Sweet Lou uses an iPhone.

Just FYI, integrated circuits of this magnitude can not be made by an actual person, so they were never taken from manufacturing.

 

Automation is the future. Any promise from either candidate about bringing back manufacturing jobs is lying. There will never be a new influx of manufacturing jobs. That ship has sailed a while back. In half a century I can see a job market where the only employable professions are in r&d(engineers and scientists), medical professions(even though roughly 80% of the medical profession can be automated), lawyers and government positions. A millennia ago, an individual could have a living without being literate while it's a necessity today in order to be employed. In half a century I can see the bare minimum for employment is understanding high level computer language, advanced calculus(DiffyQs) and higher level physics such as statics/dynamics. Almost everyone else will be surviving on some basic minimum allowance through welfare. It's a scary future.

Cohete, explain to us why manufacturing plants in the US have INCREASED production by 20% since 2009 and manufacturing jobs have only increased by 5%?
Is it because most of these new factories look like this?

 

So, socialism?

 

What's your solution?

 

There is really no solution as far as I can see, more and more jobs will be replaced by automation here and abroad. One proposal was let the robots do everything and we just play and have fun, but that does not sound like a good future for mankind, that path will surely lead to the extinction of mankind eventually.

 

How many people it used to take to make a car? How many people used to work on the farm? How many lawyers you used to need to research a case? The lists goes on and on. You can bet that automation will take away more and more jobs in the next century. There are hardly any jobs that could not be replaced by AI eventually.

 

Trump will bring those robots back to America!

 

You won't need a lot of R&D engineers. In an engineering team of 10 I think 2 people actually matter. Most people are there just there because people need headcount and do so some menial task which could really could be automated and with the way AI is going even their jobs will be gone.

 

Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966

 

So basically Elysium

 

Since you are talking way way way into the future ---- the vast majority of human are still basically struggling daily for basic needs - food, shelter, medicine. Once we are past that point (robots support us), we are 'freed' to entertain much higher goals. What really make us happy? What is reality? Expand beyond earth. That will take thousands of years to conquer, if ever.

 

Yes, but then you are in a conundrum because usually those 2 out of 10 that actually matter, matter because of their senior experience and the only way to receive experience is... experience.

 

It's a buzzword for those who have no damn clue what they are talking about. You are holding on to a hopeless cause. There will never be another 'golden age' of manufacturing jobs again. There will still be massive gains in manufacturing production but as you can see from 5/20 ratio of manufacturing jobs percent increase over manufacturing production percent increase, increase in manufacturing production barely needs any labor increase and that's now. That ratio will steadily approach 0 as these plants use more creative automation processes.

 

I've posted a source on this before. You don't post sources.

 

So automation doesn't replace workers and Excel and nail guns are evidence of that? WTF are you talking about?