I guess a football program enablign serial child rape isn't serious enough; I guess basically the bar is now at first degree homicide.
I don't think anyone will want to watch that team of walk ons get slaughtered every Saturday...wait, I might. Yeah, the network should ban them.
Pretty crazy. In the wake of the child sex abuse scandal, Penn State faces a $60 million fine, a four-year bowl ban and a loss of scholarships and wins dating to 1998. At least the players aren't penalized, and can transfer immediately without penalty.
Exactly, but in this case, Penn State's punishment will puncture their football program every bit as much (or more) as the death penalty. As someone who wanted them to get the death penalty, this more than enough IMO.
Wish they dropped a 6-8 year mandatory punishments...The 60 million dollar fine is ok with me...considering that regardless of the NCAA punishment...the civil lawsuits will destroy the university financially...plus a 14 year probationary period(the number of years that this disgusting pedophile was allowed to roam free)...I liked the vacating of wins since 98...bottom line nothing can ever restore the innocence lost by this demon... I hope Jerry dies a slow painful death...
Listened to the radio broadcast of NCAA President Emmert this morning. He touched on the DP, and said that he and the committee came to the same conclusion a lot of people on here did, that it harmed more people who had nothing to do with the crimes far worse than it did anybody associated with the actual crimes, and that they specifically went to work trying to make the punishments more focused and directed at those responsible. I have to tip my hat to them for once, they made the right call.
well if you don't have any football games everybody and everything involved in gamedays gets hurt - band, cheerleaders, fans who like watching football, businesses that cater to fans coming to State College (which is in the middle of nowhere)
I'm not sure it wouldn't be easier to recover from the death penalty than it will be to recover from this.
And they don't get impacted if they football team sucks and is less popular? Oh, and by the way, one last time - screw them. I can't think of something less relevant here than "but the cheerleader will have nothing to cheer!"
It still allows for parents to come see their kids in those activities...for those kids to still be involved in something. That's the difference, I think.
I don't really like the bowl bans, but the fine and reduced scholarships were certainly appropriate. The vacated wins is an odd move to me. I understand it was to get JoePa out of the record, but the wins weren't earned against the NCAA rules. Of course every record book will contain an asterisk referencing JoePa.
What about the poor scumbags who run Bowl Organizing committees (nonprofits, of course)..they are going to be hurt by this, through no fault of their own. Unfair.
Maybe they can cheer for less kid rape for those 12 vacant saturdays a year? Doesn't strike me as compelling. Hell, would you even want your kids out there on Saturdays emblazoned with the colors of somethign as monumentally corrupt and disgraceful as PSU football? I wouldn't.
I mentioned this a few pages ago, but I think this depends on if you're looking at it from an administrative standpoint or an on-the-field standpoint. This might do more damage on-the-field, but I think administratively, it's MUCH easier to recover from. You can continue all that you've been doing - you'll just have worse players. It's very similar to just going through a 5 or 6 year down stretch - and they have time to prepare since they only lose one class of players at a time. This coming year, it won't affect anything. In 2013, they just won't have much of a freshman class, but freshmen wouldn't play much anyway so it's just like having a bust for one class. It's really 2014 and 2015 that they'll notice it the most, but then when scholarships do return, there will be oodles of playing time for freshmen, so it gives them an opportunity to recruit using that. As an example, I imagine there is a waiting list for season tickets, so people either keep buying them through this period, or they lose their place in the line - so you probably still have great overall ticket sales and limit the financial damage. You'll still have solid attendance through rallying around the school.