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Serge Ibaka on Trade Block

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by 13 in 33, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

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    If we can unload Brewer in the deal, you have to look into it. I wouldn't worry about Orlando not wanting to pay him; they already overspent on Biyombo and have Vucevic. I don't know what Ibaka will be worth, but he'll obviously get a pay raise, and since the Magic are en route to another crap season as constructed, they need to get what they can for him.
     
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    Harrell,Brewer,KJ, rights to Gentile, rights to Llull, 2017 first and 2017 second for Ibaka and Hezonja.
     
  3. jayfree

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    Win now as in Regular season or Win now as in Finals? Because Ibaka is not helping the Rockets to beat the Warrios in a 7 game series.
     
  4. Astrodome

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    I think if Harden tells Morey to grab him, Morey will grab him.
     
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    I'd give up our pick, but thats about it.

    Ibaka isnt good anymore, and isn't worth Harrell or Dekker
     
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  6. Vivi

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    Come on man, they lost Durant...and Sabonis is doing a good season, and it's not like it worked better for the Magic lol

    As for the rental, i'm not saying we should just ignore him, but assuming we cannot trade for him just with Brewer and a 1st pick, i would stay away...he's not making us a contender, he's going to get paid, he's not the same player he was 2/3 years ago...what i'm saying is we shouldn't make a desperate move for someone not really worth it. Once you trade a Dekker or Capela for him you cannot go back, you have to deal with that -> assuming he's going to stay this summer -> and not for a max deal.
     
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    Harrell + Brewer + 1st

    Harden/Gordon
    Bev/Gordon
    Ariza/Dekker
    Anderson/Ibaka
    Ibaka/Capela
     
  8. Vivi

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    Post above :)
     
  9. YOLO

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    i wouldn't mind Ibaka here for the right price. Him at the 5 would be very interesting once the Rockets go to small ball.
     
  10. Vivi

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    We should also remember that he wasn't happy in OKC anymore because he was getting as many shots as he wanted...not sure he would be too happy here, the more i think the more i can see him ending up in SacTown...he will get paid, they will give him all the shots he wants...
     
  11. Vivi

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    Well, i can agree with this, why not. It's all about that "right price" though.
     
  12. YOLO

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    hes still only 27. a lot of the discussions to the average person would make it seem like he's on the wrong side of 30 haha
     
  13. BigMaloe

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    You have to surrender one of capela/montrezl.

    His listed age is 27 but more likely he is 30-31

    He doesn't rebound well, and while he was once a defense and blocking phenom, he has regressed defensively the further his offense has stretched out.

    He shoots a majority of his shots in the mid-range area.

    That being said, if we could get him to buy in to being the center. Who would guard the paint on defense and run the PnR / PnP on offense I say go for it.

    If you could get him to buy into the system and acquire him at the cost of something like brewer/kj/montrezl/1st than I say do it.
     
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  14. Vivi

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    Stole this from @zeeshan2

    Seems like they want young players AND pickS...eh...
     
  15. Vivi

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    Well, the word out there is that he's actually already over 30...and if you think his declining started a couple of years ago...
     
  16. JayZ750

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    I'd love to have Serge Ibaka on this team, but it's a tricky one.

    I would not do the deal unless Anderson was moving back to Orlando, and am not sure I'd want to do that, or what message it would send, especially given the positive team chemistry, etc.

    Ibaka is a very solid 3 point shooter, though not sure he's quite the quick trigger Anderson is, with the depth, and at nearly 7 a game as compared to Ibaka's 4. But Ibaka is clearly better in every other PF like way.

    Something along the lines of
    Anderson, young guys (KJ, Ennis, Onuaku), 2nd round pick
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    Ibaka, Jodie Meeks

    Ibaka and Meeks are both free agents. Meeks is out indefinitely with an injury. If DM can also move Brewer with no salary coming back then they have a ton of room this offseason to resign Ibaka and another max/near max guy. Renounce Meeks, $7.5 million of "extra" room or so by holding the rights to Ibaka as opposed to having Anderson's $19.5 million next year on the books.

    It's worth consideration, but probably not something I'd ultimately do.
     
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    give 'em dekker or trez
     
  18. YOLO

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    don't really follow that age issue much so not too familiar with that. Never saw him as a star but solid defensively with the ability to guard multiple positions.
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    Or simply one or the other.........a combination of the two if that's what it takes.
     
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    I don't see how he makes them a real contender this year either.

    And as I noted above, I don't see how the Rockets could roll with Anderson at $19.5 million+ and Ibaka I'd assume at the same level in the future.

    So, rightly, why give up any assets for him?

    The only thing I'd consider is basically swapping Anderson for him. But it'd be a risky move.
     
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