Until proven otherwise, there's too many coincidences. Seems the Russians used the same tactics in Brexit as the US election. So you think there's 0% change Trump's campaign helped and got helped by Kremlin backed groups?
because that was the reason I made a post and quoted Deckard's hypocritical and counterfactual BS. The entire point of my post was that, not your opinion on what swayed elections.
Not sure who you're debating, but according to (now) the Senate Intel and all our intelligence agencies and British Intel: the latter is true. Kremlin-backed groups helped Trump. That doesn't mean they colluded, but it 100% means all Americans (including Two Scoops, ideally, if he's got nothing to hide) who give two craps about their country should be following Mueller's investigation closely and objectively. It's not very complicated.
I think Trump was a legitimate candidate and legitimate candidates wouldn't go to a foreign power for illegal help. People who believe collusion still don't accept Trump as a legitimate candidate. I don't get it. He is popular, he is in essence the first reality star. Winning takes turning out your base and getting the very few true voters who don't vote the same every year. His economic politics are different from the last silver spooner, GWB. Voodoo economics,economics of the rich.
The same poor conservatives vote for rich conservative Republicans every election. Nothing different happened in 2016. The Reagan Democrat voted for Reagan. Not collusion. If you dont address Reagan Democrat concerns they will vote for Reagan again. Sanders addressed those concerns btw. The Reagan Democrat voted for Obama and Clinton, the husband.
We know for a fact that Trump's campaign sought help from Russian government officials in winning the campaign. The legality part of it is still being sorted out, and we will have to wait until the investigation is complete.
When Reagan then GHB won, everyone thought Democrats were dead in presidential politics, then Clinton seemed to bring a revival. But really he can thank Perot. That being said, Clinton did bring life back. The fringe voter every year is the conservative democrat. They are real people amd they vote. Black folks as opposed to Reagan Democrats vote over 90% every year. And all that being said i think turning out young voters is key for Democrats. You know who won't turn out young voters, 2016 Hilary Clinton. You know who could, old man Sanders.
No, once they took the meeting they were colluding. If I meet someone for a drug deal, I'm there to make a drug deal. That's an open and shut case.
If the lady approached them and they notified the FBI Trump and his campaign would be in the clear. There are other examples as well.
Thats not their obligation and no one knows what they supposedly had Colluding with what? They got in a time machine and went backwards to collude with whatever that lady did? You dont even know what the lady supposedly had.
If the meeting was an innocent meeting why did Trump and the people around him lie and try and cover up what was going in that meeting?
I don't know. But whatever the Russians had the Russians got it on their own. We know that. Thats why its not collusion and thats why its a dead end
Definition of collude for English Language Learners : to work with others secretly especially in order to do something illegal or dishonest
trump and his people had no "obligation" to report they were contacted by someone representing a foreign government, government seen by the United States as one of the most significant threats and one that has had numerous sanctions against? While they may not have had a legal obligation, did they have an ethical or moral obligation? And if not, why the numerous attempts to lie about the meeting? Lie to the American people, the press, and even to investigators?
They didn't collude. Everyone needs to move forward In an ethical sense, who are they suposed to tell about that Russia has a whole industry of hacking
LOL... trump supporters may want the Mueller investigation to go away, but there appears to be at least four directions the investigation is focusing on: money laundering, emoluments, obstruction of justice, and criminal conspiracy (or what your call "collusion"). Again, trump and his campaign should have contacted the FBI about being approached by Russia with information described as damaging the to Clinton campaign. Instead, they have continually lied about the meeting.
