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Name recognition.

Poor urban communities that are more diverse probably aren't as involved in following nuances of politics and resort to more name recognition candidates. It's why Hillary had an edge with minority voters.

 

Her losing isn't going to change my mind that I think she by far is the best candidate.

 

when the Chicago Tribune gives your signature policy proposal an "F", you're in trouble

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...-loan-debt-warren-sanders-20190426-story.html

 

Actual progressives?

Who and what are those?

He is running for the Democratic nomination not the nomination of the progressives and it looks like he is doing well.

Who doesn't like Biden on actual merit?

 

They seriously are using the "not fair" to previous people who paid of their debt excuse?

That's an actual legitimate argument? So we shouldn't decriminalize weed and let people with no violent drug offenses to go free because previous citizens had to endure going through their full sentence.

What shitty logic. Logic that pretty much undermines any reform in any avenue. I'm not going to let a random editorial of one person's hot take change my opinion.

 

Ones who don't take legal bribe money from Comcast. I think Biden is a vapid shell with no genuine policy ideas. He's signficantly better than Trump and if he won the DNC nomination, I will go out and vote for him, but a progressive he is not.

 

As someone who took out quite a bit of student loans to acquire a post-graduate degree and who makes a decent wage and has aggressively paid my loans back, I'd be pretty damned pissed if something like this ever came to fruition.

Not to mention all of those who took out loans, worked hard, lived modestly and got out from under it.

They weren't able to save that money or put it into a home but all of these people will get that benefit?

That's f**ked.

 

What's ****ed is that we are at a record low for home ownership for people in their 20s and 30s. Entrepreneurship is also severely stymied. This student loan debt issue is a severe drag on the economy.

We as a nation voted in 2 trillion dollars worth of tax cuts to people who obviously didn't need it and found no ways to make up for that lost tax revenue. At least Warren has an explicit plan on how to more than pay for this policy.

Also, do you believe that we should have never passed the post 9/11 GI bill because it wouldn't be fair to previous veterans who had to pay their way through college?

 

If Warren is not gaining traction I doubt that is where the electorate is at, I think she is the most substantial candidate and has name recognition.

Sadly politics are not about substance anymore but more about likeability and telling people what they want to hear.

I am not really seeing a candidate that can really challenge Biden if Bernie is already losing ground I think the bloom might be off.

 

I'm not a veteran nor do I speak for veterans with regards to their benefits vis-a-vis the past.

I speak as someone who borrowed to pay for my education and then aggressively paid back my debts. I think many of us have made massive sacrifices and that if the government is going to be giving a hand out such as this it would only be fair to compensate those who were responsible and paid back their debt.

 

Did I say he was a great candidate?

IMO his merits are having a wealth of experience as a senator and vice president, being a moderate who could possibly tamp down some of the division in the country.

I don't particularly need a great candidate just a competent one at this point in time.

It's amazing you have the audacity to ask for the merits of Biden when you are a Trump supporter.

 

Fair enough you have your ideas of what you want in candidate and I agree Warren has some concrete ideas but I doubt she could get any of them implemented.

I think she would a great cabinet member and I think Biden would be open to implementing some of her policies and could have the clout and finesse to maybe get some passed.

I am a pragmatist and I think the person who presents the message is sometimes greater than what the message is, sad but true.

 

You're speaking in absolutes 9 months before the 1st primary. There is no writing on any wall for any candidate. Not this far out. So much can and likely will happen between now and the end of this year.

 

9 months before any vote is cast. I'd think those on the right would understand that speaking in absolutes that far out would be premature considering what happened in 2016. In June 2015, trump was polling in the low single digits. At this point in 2015, Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio were the front runners.

I don't know if she'll make a move or not...but neither does anyone else.