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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by BleedsRocketRed, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Houstunna

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    Of the last 10 champions, either 1) teams had a decent-good run the previous season, lost, then won the following year or 2) had already recently won, then won again.
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    Possibly true about the rotation, but keep in mind our non-success against Bauer.

    Lineup-wise... basically ALL the Astros hitters have playoff demons to exorcise.
     
  2. dandorotik

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    The Cardinals threw out horrible pitchers. Game 1 starter was Anthony Reyes. Game 2 was Jeff Weaver. Game 3 was Chris Carpenter coming off an injury. I clearly remember the Cardinals being huge underdogs and the Tigers choking in that series with several miscues.

    The point is that the Tigers were still heavily favored regardless of their lack of experience. So were the Mariners with the best overall record. Again, we can all sit around and say, "Oh, I know the Indians are going to beat us down," - but none of us really know. I mean, we just don't. So, knowing that, and having plenty of historical precedents to support me, I will err on the side of positivity and say that- as you did- we have enough talent to win this year and anyone has a shot of taking it all.

    My prediction is Washington vs. Houston in the World Series, with Washington as a favorite but Houston winning it (and that is definitely the homer in me b/c I think, but don't hope, that the Nationals are going to win it all).
     
  3. Houstunna

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    Let's keep everything in proper perspective. Nobody (or at least me) is saying the bolded.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    The Indians have trailed at the end of 4 innings during the streak.

    In 14 of the 19 games, they've given up 2 runs or less.

    They have hit more HRs than runs allowed.

    13 of the 19 games have been decided by 4 runs or more.
     
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    Simply not sustainable. Here's hoping they peter out as the month goes along.
     
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    Not so many in a row, but we had a period where we shined like this also. A period lasting considerably longer than 19 games. Things changed. They will change for the Indians as well.
     
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    But we're not even talking about winning the World Series... we're talking about if experience matters in an ALDS or ALCS matchup.

    Many of those teams that eventually won that had a decent-good run the previous season, did so in their first/no-experience playoffs. Inexperienced teams have fared well throughout the last 10 years (KC, Cubs, Mets, Colorado, Texas).

    I would certainly agree that its better to have been there before... but in this case (where most of the key/core Astros players having been around in 2015), I would say its not going to be the difference-maker as to who ends up winning between Cleveland/Houston.
     
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    Agreed.

    It will be decided by who is playing best.
     
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    The team with more runs at the end of the game should be projected to win... in most cases...
     
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    As much as many may try, forecasting this 3 weeks in advance is impossible.
     
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    I predict the Astros will be playing in 3 weeks....
     
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    But you dont know how well they will playing.
     
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    Better than they did against Oakland.
     
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    Whomever we are playing will be playing better than Oakland as well.
     
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    I wouldn't say experience is THE difference-maker either between CLE-HOU. There were other factors previously stated.

    Astros have the talent to beat anyone though.
     
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    You'd think so, but who knows. All I know is that the Astros can't play worse than they did.
     
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    It's not even that though. Hot teams can become cold and vice versa.
     
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    Lets hope not.
     
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    Slumps happen at the drop of a hat in baseball.

    Cleveland is playing the best right now, and it's not close. For a large portion of the season they were just treading water. Before we started the Oakland series we were on a tear, we seemed to have all of our moxie back and looked unbeatable..and then we got smoked. We also looked like an unstoppable juggernaut at one point.

    There's no telling how any of us are gonna be playing in a few days, much less a few weeks. The baseball postseason is often simply a game of roulette, and all you can do is position your team as well as possible.
     
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