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pro life movement mobilizes to rescue separated children at the border

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. mick fry

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    “They had the audacity to seperate me from my child.”
     
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    Yes, they do. For decades people judged it was cruel to separate innocent children from their families and didn't do it. All it would take would be a phone call from Trump and they could do that again.
     
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    First off, these are individuals who did not seek asylum legally . The legal process for seeking asylum would be to go to a port of entry and plead your case. If you do this you will never be seperated from your kids regardless of the outcome. These are individuals who did not do this and were caught illegally in the country and tried to ask for asylum after. Secondly, all of these people are allowed to return to their country of origin with their kids. They choose this path of asking for asylum knowing they may be seperated. That's humane to me.

    Decent would be to stop this illegal immigration to begin with. The things that happen to these people in the desert are awful and the detention centers can't hold this many people .
     
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    Don't "lock her up", deport her back to her country along with her mother.
     
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    OP should have added the sanctity of "family" too. Aren't pro lifesr mostly against same sex marriage to preserve family values?
     
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    As opposed to what? They aren't legal citizens. What is it you think we did with these kids before? Let them roam free in the us?
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    No, you just have a problem with detaining them until they are deported apparently.
     
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    My problem is with the needless cruelty of separating their children.
     
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    Then DACA happened and a lot disagree and are within their rights to.


    Close the loopholes
     
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    Again, point to a scenario where people would be detained for violations of the law and NOT be separated from their children and then we can talk. For whatever reason you ONLY think this is "CRUELTY" when we're talking about illegal immigrants.....it's just standard procedure when it is done to anyone else for any other reason. I know you didn't come up with the talking point about "cruelty", so if you haven't fully thought this out I'll understand. Hopefully your next set of talking points is better thought out.
     
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    DACA has nothing to do with electing to remove children from their parents.

    Close the loopholes or don't close the loopholes. That's a different issue. You don't use cruelty to children to negotiate. You said before you weren't supporting that tactic. Have you changed your mind?
     
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    It's been shown to you why the two situations aren't comparable. You can keep pretending they are, but that's your own strange fetish.
     
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    I know it doesn't but it has left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths who feel like using children for sympathy is unfair

    Close the loopholes
     
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    Not competently it hasn't been. If anything, you just simply said that the two situations weren't comparable without explaining why you seem to think that.

    When people are caught breaking the law they are detained and separated from their families, when an entire family is caught breaking the law, they are detained separately. The ONLY scenario where you want this to change is when it comes to illegal immigrants facing deportation, you are completely fine with it in every other scenario which just kills your attempt at a moral argument.
     
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    I’ve written what I think should be done.
     
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    If someone is more worried about using children for sympathy than the cruel separation and putting children in cages, is so far off base, they shouldn't really make a difference.
     
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    It is currently and has always been the standard operating procedure when dealing with all other people detained for all other crimes.....I know you want to paint this as if we're talking about Nazi death camps, but you'll just make yourself foolish if you keep going down that path.
     
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    But they do have a voice just like you
     

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