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Our Great allies the despotic Saudis kill a Washington Post Journalist.

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  1. Exiled

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    I am trying to figure this out myself. There was not near this much outrage from the left when actual American citizens were killed in our own embassy in Benghazi.
     
  3. Commodore

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    1) other than perhaps hollywood and politicians, no profession has as much an outsized sense of their own importance than journos

    2) journos are anti-Western and anti-Israel, and Saudi Arabia is perceived as the opposite
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-...-connection-with-journalists-death-1539987519

    Fight at Consulate Led to Journalist’s Death, Saudis Say
    18 Saudi citizens have been detained pending final results of investigation


    Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi PHOTO: GETTY
    132 COMMENTS
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    Margherita Stancati
    Updated Oct. 19, 2018 7:15 p.m. ET



    Saudi Arabia’s government acknowledged that journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside its consulate in Istanbul, saying he died after a brawl.

    In a statement carried by Saudi state television early Saturday, the government’s attorney general said 18 Saudi citizens have been detained pending the final results of a continuing investigation into the death of Mr. Khashoggi, a prominent Saudi journalist and government critic.


    “Discussions between citizen Jamal Khashoggi and those who met him while he was in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul led to a brawl and a fist fight, which led to his death,” the statement said, citing the preliminary findings of the investigation.

    Mr. Khashoggi was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2. He was accompanied to the entrance by his fiancée, Hatice Cengiz, who first raised the alarm of his disappearance.

    The Saudi monarch, King Salman, ordered the formation of a new committee responsible for overhauling the country’s intelligence agency to be led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. That was a clear indication that the crown prince won’t face immediate repercussions for Mr. Khashoggi’s death.

    In a royal order carried by state-run media, King Salman also announced that two senior government officials—both close aides of the crown prince—have been relieved of their posts. They are Maj. Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, the deputy chief of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence, and Saud al-Qahtani, who was in charge of media affairs at the royal court.


    Gen. Assiri was directly involved in the operation targeting Mr. Khashoggi, according to people familiar with the matter. Three other senior intelligence officers were also dismissed from their posts.

    It’s unclear what role, if any, Mr. Qahtani had in the incident. In his role as media adviser, Mr. Qahtani had tightened controls on the domestic press and stepped up efforts to intimidate and silence government critics.


    King Salman also ordered the formation of a new committee that will be responsible for overhauling the country’s intelligence agency led by Prince Mohammed, a clear indication that the crown prince won’t face immediate repercussions for Mr. Khashoggi’s death.

    The Saudi government initially denied any role in the journalist’s disappearance, saying Mr. Khashoggi left the consulate shortly after he entered it to collect documents related to his divorce. But it later launched its own, internal probe into the incident to determine who, if anyone, should be held accountable.

    The mystery surrounding Mr. Khashoggi’s fate has brought intense scrutiny upon the Saudi monarchy, precipitating the most acute diplomatic crisis for the kingdom in years. Saudi Arabia most important ally, the U.S., has been forced to step in to address the situation, with President Trump vowing “severe punishment” should the U.S. conclude the Saudi government was implicated in the journalist’s suspected murder.

    During a trip to Riyadh this week, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressed the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed for answers, and agreed to give Riyadh a few more days to complete its probe into what happened before deciding how to respond.

    Since Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance, Turkish authorities have disclosed evidence implicating Saudi officials. They say Mr. Khashoggi was drugged, killed and dismembered inside the Saudi consulate by a team of operatives dispatched from Riyadh and linked to the security establishment.
     
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    Is the actual hit squad that flew on the government planes getting hemmed up or just some random jamokes?
     
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    Classic story- who among us hasn't walked into a consulate for routine paperwork, made a flippant comment, gotten into a ruckus and then been tortured and dismembered by intelligence officers and a doctor dissect you! Boys will be boys, am I right Justice Kavanaugh..?
     
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    And the new official trump white house statement...

     
  8. SamFisher

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    That's some 10/10 whataboutism.

    But the nazis needed lampshades!

    Not sure what the big deal is they woulda died eventually anyway!
     
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    Quite clearly, the narrative and the planned reaction to it has been agreed between the Saudis and the Trump administration.
     
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    Wonder what diversion they’ll cook up to pry our eyes off of this. I gotta give Trump credit: I had absolutely no clue how short our collective attention span happens to be. You just throw another log on the fire, and pretty soon, the earlier logs just burn away into nothing while you’re busy watching the new one burn.
     
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    The rare republican flicker of outrage...

     
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    I don't know, I always hand them my documents through the outside windows and ask them to throw it back when they're done.

    Now that MBS has conceded that “18 people are responsible for murder of Khashoggi", he must locates his body at least
     
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    Recalling the Ambassador would be a real slap in the face. For real, they take that stuff seriously.

    Of course if we had a real President instead of a piece of ****, and a real non acting Ambassador instead of his foppish dandy son in law dilettante...we could actually recall the ****ing Ambassador.
     
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    Was a major US ally responsible for planning and carrying out that attack?
     
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    Never get in a fist fight with a guy carrying a bone saw.
     
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    Ted Bundy Republicans like @cml750 and actual serial killer Ted Bundy are out in droves tonight.

    Apply some rags soaked in chloroform and whataboutonal, it will silence all pesky dissent.

    Its Halloween! People suppose get murdery!
     
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    Of course he does. Never mind the saudi version of the story has changed constantly. Never mind no body was ever recovered.

     
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    Cliffs on this thread/situation?

    I haven't paid much attention to this story.
     
  20. A_3PO

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    I repeat: We have a piece of trash as president. Shameful and disgraceful.

    If only this incident was the one and only flaming red flag for MBS. Unfortunately, it simply confirms he is a dangerous, unstable psycho.
     
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