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[Official] Texans Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 19, 2025.

  1. Hey Now!

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    Unless Munchak was hurt, Matthews never played LG - at least, not during the heyday. Not sure what he did, post run'n'shoot/Tennessee eras. He started as a RG, opposite Munchak - and eventually played LT & C, I know for sure. Salem was the LT in '83. In '84, Steinjuker played RT. I don't recall when Bruce first moved, or where.

    Matthews was one of 7 (!) first round picks in '83 that went to the Hall of Fame. Bananas. Munchak was taken 2-3 slots ahead of Marcus Allen in '82 - I remember being sooooooooo mad at the time.
     
  2. Hey Now!

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    No; Steinkuler was their starting RT. Williams was selected in '89 and, yes - as @Buck Turgidson said, was involved in Babygate in... was that '93? He replaced Steinkuler as RT.
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Dartboard
     
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    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1984_roster.htm
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1986_roster.htm
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1987_roster.htm
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1988_roster.htm
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1989_roster.htm
    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1990_roster.htm

    @Hey Now! and @Buck Turgidson you guys were right and my memory was wrong! From 1986-90 I was watching games at 0100 in the Philippines and likely was half out of it. Thanks for making me look at those old rosters, brought back a lot of memories!
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Bruce started at least 16 games at every OL position with the Oilers

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattBr00.htm
     
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    So, I just looked it up…Matthew’s DID play all five OL positions and made the pro bowl at C, LG & RG. Greatest OL ever? Too bad he had to wear those clown suits at the end of his career.
     
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    If I recall right, Steinkuhler got the most accolades as a draftee, but Mathews got the most as a pro.
     
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    Thats 4 tackles on roster. I dont see us trading up for a tackle, but definately for a guard like booker
     
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    The BIG AIN'T SO EASY!
     
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    A seventh Rounder headed into his 11th season. Draft position isn't everything. But at 6'8 1/2" and 380, he's a man you might want to run behind on short yardage situations.
     
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  12. Hey Now!

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    So Matthews moved to LG in '95, two years after Munchak retired. I did not remember Munchak only playing 12 seasons; seemed like he was there FOREVER.

    What's crazy about Matthews... he may lay claim to being the best RG, C and possibly LG in team history. How many players are the best in their franchise's history at three different positions??

    - was a RG for FIVE seasons, & was 1st team All-Pro 3 times
    - was a C for FIVE seasons, & was 1st team All-Pro once; 2nd team All-Pro twice
    - was a LG for SIX seasons, & was 1st team All-Pro 3 times; 2nd team All-Pro once

    I don't *think* we can put him ahead of Munchak at LG - but it's more quantity than quality. Matthews had more 1st team All-Pro selections (3 to 2). Munchak was 2nd team All-Pro six times (Matthews once) - but Munchak also played twice as many seasons!

    There's an argument that Bruce Matthews is the greatest offensive lineman in NFL history.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    Steinkuler was never healthy. Knee was wrecked in college, IIRC. Probably played bone-on-bone for the entirety of his career.
     
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    I'll argue FOR Matthews.
     
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    If he's not in the starting 5, he's the 6th man swiss army knife off the bench
     
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    Nebraska, steroids
     
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    He's coming off a torn patella tendon, so my expectations are low. However, if he somehow made a miraculous recovery, he could compete for the right tackle spot. Unfortunately, I think he'll likely end up on injured reserve before the season is over.
     
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    Give me 5 clones of Matthews at 27 and I'll take on all comers.
     
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  19. Hey Now!

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    It's not a terribly difficult argument. The only OL with more 1st team All-Pro selections than Matthews' 7 (several are tied with him) are Otto (10), Mix (9), Munoz (9) & Parker (8).

    Parker played several different positions - but was only AP at LT & LG. Matthews is - I believe - the only OL with 1T AP selections at 3 different positions (RG, C & LG).
     
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    I was just being a jerk but I do agree with you
     

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