Would the incarcerated felons make a field trip to their local polling station or would it be mail-in ballot only? Would the terrorists have to be previously registered to vote or could it be their first time?
Have to make special accommodations. The really sad part is when Sanders announced this on CNN he got applause. These brainless cattle will be herded by the craziest of ranchers.
Well it is kind of obvious, isn't it? They would already be out on probation or parole, so voting wouldn't be difficult.
I wonder why? Maybe because they care about the future of their country? Even Bernie has said this is the absolute most important thing. You sound just like a Trump conspiracy theorist. Except that's the opposite of what he's done. He didn't say that, not that you actually care or pay attention. He said that a lot of what appeals to voters about is similar (blowing up the system, etc) - which has been proven true by actual votes. Your post here also suggests that both Bernie and Trump supporters share a love for creating and sharing mindless conspiracies and fake news as well. You really are no different than some of our resident village idiot Trump supporters - you just do the same things for a different candidate.
Comes off as a red herring issue to me. I wonder how many felons are interested in exercising their franchise. The same thing with the folks who don't have a government issued form of ID. Like, you're not interested in participating in society to the extent an ID is required but you're super interested in voting. Seems legit.
A red herring? It's a real issue that Sanders wants to make a debate topic. He's using it as a way to speak to minority communities to show he is in touch with them. Voting rights for felons is a big cause around the country, particularly in communities of color that have been disproportionately impacted by felonies for drug offenses. I won't get on board with this though.
I say that because some folks will make big politics of if but how many people will it actually touch? Like with the voter ID laws... how many people are going through life without an ID but are interested in voting? I think it's largely grand standing and pandering.
It was tongue in cheek....... stating that the criminal justice system would be far weaker long term under someone like Sanders. I am fairly red on the issues of law and order, largely based on my experience as a profession and seeing how destructive a criminal is before he is incarcerated. In many cases criminals have committed crimes for years without recourse. So, I have no real sympathy for violent offenders or drug dealers. I understand that there are people incarcerated for drug based crimes that a growing number of people support releasing........ and Sanders could have couched his response by limiting it to non violent drug offenders being able to vote. When he uses the term "all", I don't think that is going to resonate with most voters. Maybe I am out of touch, but I do not believe most voters was the Boston Marathon Bomber having the right to vote.
Strategically Sanders really needs the support of blacks and urban voters. He would have beaten Hillary last time if he had the support of the inner city. I don't want to speak for Sanders, but in 2016 it felt like they just assumed they would get a good amount of the minority vote based on their platform. The problem is that he also is likely going to alienate a lot of voters that are moderate by taking his philosophical point about voting too far.
People are oftentimes too busy to vote. Incarcerated felons don't have a lot going on during the day. It might even be the highlight of their stay.
Tons of people, actually. For example, many seniors in a nursing home who have expired licences because they never needed to renew them. Or people in super-rural-America who just know everyone near them and don't need an ID for anything. Or college students who might not change their IDs even though they establish residency in a new place. The more interesting aspect of this is how many people go through life trying to vote fraudulently with no ID? And why we think it's worth expending tons of resources to stop these not-existent people? And why the pro-voter-ID people are the same as the restrict-voter-people and have literally been shown to ask for research on where and how black people vote and then come up with bills to restrict those kinds of voting. Notice that mail-in absentee voting is where actual fraud occurs (see North Carolina), yet none of the voter-fraud people try to restrict that (hint: absentee voters tend to vote GOP).
Yea, that's fine to posit those things but I don't know that reality bears it out. Many seniors in nursing homes have valid ID's and many can get them if they want to vote. People in rural America need ID's too. College kids can cast a provisional ballot. They aren't prevented from voting. This idea that voter ID laws are disenfranchising "tons" of people is preposterous. Like I said, who is going through life without and ID and is not able to participate in all the activities an ID would require but are burning with desire to vote? Perhaps an extremely small amount of people. I have absolutely no problem with requiring folks to provide identification supporting who they claim to be to vote. That's perfectly logical. As far as I know this is common place around the developed world. It's not an undue burden. It's the most minimal burden to functioning in society. How is it possible to quantify how many fraudulent votes have been cast if there is no mechanism to safeguard the vote at all?
@justtxyank RE: Ruthless Thought this was pretty prescient and funny Sanders Supporters Viciously Attack Bernie Sanders After He Criticizes Mistakes Of 2016 Sanders Campaign
Calm down. My comment: "They just want to win against Trump" Was sarcasm. My fault I guess for not signalling sufficiently. My point was Democratic Party insiders constantly talk about uniting, the Party. Their trying to take down Bernie one of the two , if not the front runner, is not uniting. In your haste to claim conspiracy you ignore the NYT story of their previously undisclosed meetings.. With equating me with the Trump conspiracy theorist, thing, I guess you might have purposely misunderstood. Hey, Biden has finally entered; you can relax as the status quo is now totally represented.
Establishment playbook chapter 1 - character assassination. Chapter 2 - brainwash by linking buzzwords like "socialist" to horrific thoughts of a dystopian future in which a tiny minority (say, something like 1% of the population) have incredible power, controlling the vast majority of wealth and resources, so egregious that their share equals that of the bottom 90% of the entire population. My god that does sound horrific. The poor masses. Thank god we don't have socialism yet. Next thing you know we'll have children being forced to go to school, mandatory vaccinations, and a road system where everyone is forced to pay for it whether they drive or not. Take a seat on the 50-yard line, preferably in the nose-bleed section. I have a feeling "we ain't seen nothin yet."
