1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Astros @ Rangers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,417
    Likes Received:
    15,853
    Boston is giving up 8 runs a game.
    Dodgers are scoring 9 runs a game.
    Tigers are scoring 1.4 runs a game.

    None of these trends will last. Every team, Astros included, will have extended stretches of pitching well, hitting well, pitching poorly, and hitting poorly. The Astros won't keep scoring 2.2 runs per game, nor will they keep giving up 2.4 runs per game. In 2015 or 2016, we probably had a lot of casual baseball watchers here that didn't follow the flows of a baseball season, but at this point, everyone should know that early season stats are meaningless. Getting worked up over it year after year just seems like self-torture.
     
    mikol13 likes this.
  2. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,152
    Likes Received:
    27,941
    Gonna have to disagree there. Could we still win the division without them, probably, our talent level is that great, and the division is that underwhelming.

    But no team is gonna win 95 plus with only 2 capable starters. We would be counting on a bunch of rookies and Wade Miley to make 60% of our starts. Luhnow would be required to use assets to acquire a starter.
     
  3. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    .246 BABIP is the biggest reason why production has been down over these first FIVE games. Small sample size theater all the way around.
     
  4. ClearLakeTX

    ClearLakeTX Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2015
    Messages:
    908
    Likes Received:
    677
    I'm there tonight with the family, $5 each for upper levels row 1, NICE!!!!!!!!!
     
    Houstunna, SWTsig, awc713 and 2 others like this.
  5. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,941
    Likes Received:
    14,011
    Come on, by your definition of "capable" not including Miley, Whitley, James, Valdez, and guys Astros will acquire via trade, the 2017 Astros only had 1 capable starter a week into the season and won 101. Musgrove, ever-injured McCullers, Pre-CFM Morton, Peacock, McHugh, Martes, Paulino, and Fiers would definitely not be viewed as capable.

    Without Peacock and McHugh, Astros still win about 95 games with Cole and Verlander healthy. Could be 90. Could be 100. If 95 wins is the bar of effective, the bar is wrong. Rolling out Miley and a bunch of rookies may not be pretty, but it should be good enough to get the job done provided Astros hitters get hits with RISP while Cole and Verlander act as steamrollers.
     
  6. Hustle Town

    Hustle Town Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    4,592
    Likes Received:
    2,629
    Good luck seeing over the railing
     
  7. Smacktle

    Smacktle Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,115
    Likes Received:
    1,125
    There's gonna be nobody there except Astros fans so they may be able to move back a row or 2.
     
  8. JeeberD

    JeeberD Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2002
    Messages:
    2,811
    Likes Received:
    631
    They're going to be able to move down to the lower level with no problem, if it's as empty as yesterday's game looked. I have an upper level ticket for tomorrow's game and don't plan to spend a single minute up there.
     
    Houstunna, Htown Stros and SLRokJok like this.
  9. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    13,336
    http://www.astroscounty.com/2019/04/tuesday-morning-hot-links.html

    Houston has scored 11 runs through their first five games. I thought that would be the lowest in quite some time, but the 2015 Astros scored ten runs in their first five games, and scored 13 runs in their first five games in 2017.

    The 2019 Astros now have 11 runs on 35 hits. That's the 4th-highest hit total in the AL to go with the 3rd-lowest run total.
     
    Hustle Town and mikol13 like this.
  10. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,152
    Likes Received:
    27,941
    You are expecting a bunch of rookies to pitch as well as our guys did that year.

    LMJ, Peacock, DK, Morton were all good in 2017. Fiers also had a great stretch when everyone was hurt. The pitching in 2017 was not trash by any means before we added Verlander.
     
  11. Newlin

    Newlin Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    8,089
    Likes Received:
    9,836
    I predict Tyler White will attempt to steal a base today.
     
  12. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    13,336
    o_O
     
  13. SuraGotMadHops

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    5,601
    Likes Received:
    5,983
    Tyler White has gotten fat AF. His belly hangs over his belt. If you're gonna be fat and out of shape you better mash, if you're not mashing, then you better get in shape.
     
    Htown Legend, King1 and jakedasnake like this.
  14. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,784
    Likes Received:
    84,193
    I didn't think he could look more like an overgrown LoTR dwarf but then he showed up this spring....
     
    Htown Legend likes this.
  15. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,941
    Likes Received:
    14,011
    No. I'm expecting Verlander and Cole, if healthy and without an unexpected drop in performance, to steamroll other teams to a degree no Astros pitcher did in 2017. I'm expecting Brantley can hit well enough (though not expecting much from his defense) to turn Astros Big 4 into a Big 5.

    Not trash, but the Astros 2017 rotation raked up an ERA of over 4 with a similar FIP. Fiers despite a couple months of lights out was garbage for most of the year. Assuming Cole and Verlander rack up high 2/low 3 ERAs or FIPs and Miley is around 4, Astros rookies only need to be in the high 4s/low 5s to match 2017's rotation. I'm highly confident James is better than a high 4 or low 5 ERA or FIP. Same for Whitley. Valdez, too, but with less margin for error. Rookies only need to be playable. I'm placing a lot of faith in the Altuve, Bregman, Springer, Correa, and Brantley to win games whether it is McHugh or Valdez.

    In addition, I'm expecting Astros to add a TOR SP even with Peacock/McHugh. So basically, Astros need to get one rookie perform only moderately horribly out of James, Whitley, Martin, Valdez, and Bukauskas to match 2017's rotation if McHugh and Peacock's arms fall off.
     
  16. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    13,336
    Whide the Dwarf. Works for me :D
     
  17. Castor27

    Castor27 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2001
    Messages:
    10,062
    Likes Received:
    1,408
    Told my son last night he is a red pointed hat away from being a huge lawn gnome.
     
  18. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,563
    Likes Received:
    156,516
  19. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,563
    Likes Received:
    156,516
  20. jim1961

    jim1961 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2010
    Messages:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    13,336
    I look at this lineup and wonder why we are not kicking @ss.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now