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[Official] Astros Offseason Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Those are regular season stats. A decent chunk of his MLB career (~10%) was played in the postseason last year. I can't find DRS and UZR for the postseason, but I can find assists and putouts.

    (Assist+putouts)/games played has a decent, not great correlation to UZR/game (R2 of 0.44) for qualified AL 3B. Bregman's (Assist+putouts)/games played for the postseason were better than any 3B's (Assist+putouts)/games played for the regular season. In other words, if someone can find UZR/150 for the postseason, Bregman's is likely better in the postseason than the gold glove winners for the regular season. It was only 18 games, so it could have been a defensive hot streak for Bregman or it could have been Bregman adapting to the new position.
     
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    He went through a bad stretch defensively last year, but he was amazing in the postseason and at times during the regular season.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    You said he is "not GG caliber". Using 1 season of defensive stats. OK.

    How do the "defensive metrics" account for the massive amounts of IF shifts that the Stros employ wrt other teams?

    How do you regularize (yep, I just made that word up) that league-wide? Like OPS+ or other stats?
     
  4. MrBear1

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    "Gold Glove" is a voted on award, not the best measure anyways. Statistically speaking (and I am aware that defensive metrics take a long time to normalize) Bregman was not elite in 2017.

    He could be getting better though, I don't disagree there. I think ultimately he may end up at 2nd base (where he has the tools to be elite).
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    "Gold Glove" is a chickensh!t award. Jeter won a bunch, Bagwell won 1 (the year he won MVP, iirc)

    What about him tells you "second base"? Range, hands? I'm curious, not argumentative.
     
  6. texans1095

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    Here's Baseball Prospectus' predictions for this season. Unsurprisingly they have the Astros atop the American League with 99 wins.

     
  7. kaleidosky

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    Yeah I'd have to disagree on second base long-term. His arm is plenty strong for 3rd, his range there is great, reaction time has been solid. Honestly I don't see weaknesses at all--seems like he could be elite when he gets more consistent. The argument for 2nd (I'm guessing) would be that you'd take advantage of his range, which is minimized at 3rd. I don't think you need to move him for that, but I could definitely see him being flexible--and moving depending on who's on his team in 5 years. (Generally it's easier to find good bats at 3rd than 2nd--I think we'd all agree with that.)
     
  8. Joe Joe

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    For other organizations, yes. Astros have had Biggio, Altuve, Kent for a couple of years, Morgan, and Billy Doran.
     
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    Some news about next season's campaign, promotions, opening day festivities and WS Champs Jerseys for Opening Day.







     
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    My god the gold hats. Take my money.
     
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    Agreed. It just works so perfectly with our logo. And I think I’ll just be paying up and buying some of those giveaways on eBay. Can’t even fathom the lines for the opening weekend ones.
     
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    Those hats, ohhh yeahh. Gonna need a couple of those babies.

    Gonna be fun all season to have that champions swagger. Not a damn thing any haters can say either.
     
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  13. texans1095

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    So ready for the season to start!

     
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    Key points

    George Springer will lead off again. Dang it. That never works.

    Bullpen will be about matchups and not necessarily about defined roles.

    Imagine a bottom of the order that is as good as some middle of the orders.
     
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  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Imagine there's no Selig,
    It's easy if you try.
    No astroturf below us,
    Above us only sky (or roof)

    Imagine there's no Yankees
    It isn't hard to do
    No Roughneds to point at
    And no Red Sox too
    Imagine all the Astros...kicking Rangers aaaaassssss.

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Keuchel at the Rox/Heat game with three smokes. Champ life treating him well.
     
  19. chievous minniefield

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    Pics or gtfo.
     
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    As compared to Ken Caminiti....Morgan Ensberg? Art Howe? Not much of an organizational history of 3rd base excellence, especially if you dock Caminiti for the PEDs.
     

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