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[Official] Astros Off-Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2016.

  1. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

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    or their miserable fans
     
  2. Creepy Crawl

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    Game of Thrones Teaming Up With Major League Baseball to Promote Season Seven

    Pretty cool that the Astros are involved in this. I hope to be able to snag the merch involved in this promotion.
     
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    Could we theoretically having him on the opening day roster and then stash him in the minors soon after? Or can he just refuse a minor league assignment?
     
  4. Snake Diggit

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    He cannot be sent to the minors ever again (except on injury rehab) without passing through waivers. If he did pass through waivers he would have no choice but to report to the minors for Houston. But my thinking is he would not pass through waivers.
     
  5. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    No way Stassi makes it through waivers. Young, capable catchers are already valuable...add some hitting capability, and that's huge. I think he's building his trade value as we speak. Wonder what might be feasible. 2 prospects that are in the #11-20 range for a team? Maybe with a super hot spring you convince someone to give you 1 from the bottom of their top 10 prospects?
     
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    We're truly blessed that stassi and peacock are hot topics this spring.
     
  7. Snake Diggit

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    I think that's a little optimistic. A 45 grade prospect would be about the best Houston could hope for (thinking a Jonathan Arauz or Guadalupe Chavez type).
     
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    Dam!!!!!! Have the Astros won a game yet???!!!!!
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Uh, yes. Although they have yet to win (or lose) a game that matters.
     
  11. awc713

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    i honestly love how much heyman hates the Astros.



    His take just cements his goon status. Like, yeah, heyman, you're outmathing Luhnow. Got it. If you don't think Luhnow has an accurate pulse on a player's market value, okay. That's not a terrible take. I disagree, but okay. But to think JL and CRANE overpaid by nearly 50%? That's rich. What a clown.
     
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    I know the games don't matter, but dam!
     
  13. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Astros did have pay a little extra. Usually, teams pay more early in offseason to get exactly what they want. However, this year market dropped more than usual later in the offseason. Granted, closer to 2-4 million overpay than 20. 2-4 million is nothing in grand scheme of things.. just not as good of bargains as usual for Luhnow.
     
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    Using this offseason's market as the only barometer, the Astros probably overpaid for Reddick, McCann, Beltran, and Morton. You can look at guys like Fowler, Weiters, Napoli, and Fister to see that a lot of comparable players ended up getting a lot less later in the offseason.

    But all four of those guys could very well still turn out to be great values. And either way, none of those deals will have any major long term impact on the team's financial status. I liked all 4 acquisitions and with the exception of not adding a ToR SP thought Luhnow executed this offseason masterfully.
     
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    That and the Astros probably still have to overpay compared to the bigger markets to attract talent.

    That being said, Heyman is basically saying Reddick is a 1 WAR player for the length of his contract and I don't believe that.
     
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    Fowler got over $80M and cost a 1st round pick. Weiters would definitely have been preferable to me over McCann. I don't consider Fister and Morton to be comparable at all. Morton is vastly more talented than Fister at this point, but health will be a serious question mark. Napoli has become a K-machine.
     
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    Fowler is making more than Reddick, despite the fact that Reddick has typically been a 3 WAR player, while Fowler has typically been a 2 WAR player. I would say Fowler got overpaid quite a bit for a career season. Unless Reddick has a major drop off here, I find it hard to believe he will be overpaid at 13 million a year.
     
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    This is why Jose Quintana makes lot of sense. Cheap for 4 years. Don't have any problem with the acquisitions. Need to win now.
     
  19. Joe Joe

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    I expect Reddick is more a 2 WAR player nowwith regression after his big drop off last season and will likely near a 1 WAR player by end of deal. Fowler is being paid due to teams thinking moving him back fixed his defense. Thinking I wouldn't have made that gamble.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    Agree Heyman is being an idiot. I've not seen teams having to pay more for being small markets....being uncompetitive causes a surcharge. However, Astros paid what other teams were paying in WAR at beginning of off-season per estimated WAR. The price per WAR dropped by at least 0.5 million dollars during the off-season as the big markets didn't really spend their typical amount.
     

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