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Obama Served with Lawsuit

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  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    Obama -- YOU GOT SERVED

    We will be hearing much more about this issue. Remember, there are several important aspects to this -- it's NOT just about where Obama was born. It has to do with dual-citizenship, whether he forged his certificate of live birth, whether he renounced his American citizenship, and where he was born. He can not produce his birth certificate. That much is known. The certificate of live birth is not the same document as a birth certificate. The Obama camp continually falls back on the 'he is a natural born citizen' argument, but the concept of a 'natural born citizen' is somewhat ambiguous and not well defined. All this does is raises more questions.

    Service of legal documents to DNC and Senator Obama confirmed
    Friday, 05 September 2008 12:26 administrator Press Release - For Immediate Release: - 09/04/08

    SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED

    Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.

    (Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/04/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.

    The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.

    Philip J. Berg, Esquire




    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/

    Lawsuit questions Obama's eligibility for office
    Citizenship claim at issue
    Jennifer Haberkorn THE WASHINGTON TIMES
    Thursday, August 28, 2008

    Pennsylvania's former deputy attorney general and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter Philip J. Berg has filed a lawsuit in federal court in Pennsylvania accusing presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama of lying about his U.S. citizenship, which would make him ineligible to be president.

    Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven't heeded the party's call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention, which will nominate Mr. Obama as the party's presidential candidate.

    The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia last week, also names the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and says Mr. Obama´s mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there. It also claims that later in life, Mr. Obama declared himself a citizen of Indonesia.

    The Obama campaign has firmly said the Illinois Democrat is a natural-born citizen. Last month, the campaign posted on Mr. Obama's Web site a copy of his "certification of live birth." It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, two years after Hawaii was named the 50th state.

    Mr. Berg said he was contacted about filing the lawsuit by a member or associate of the group PUMA, which was formed to support Mrs. Clinton shortly after she withdrew from the race. Its mission includes denouncing the Democratic Party and Mr. Obama's nomination.

    "I really do not believe he is a natural-born citizen," said Mr. Berg, adding that he is not connected with Mrs. Clinton or her campaign.

    Just over one-quarter of Clinton supporters say they're now backing Mr. McCain, up from 16 percent in late June, according to a CNN poll conducted after Mr. Obama announced Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., of Delaware, as his running mate. Two-thirds of Clinton supporters are now backing Mr. Obama.

    Mrs. Clinton, for her part, encouraged her supporters this week to back Mr. Obama.

    "Whether you voted for me, or voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team, and none of us can sit on the sidelines," she said during her address to the convention Tuesday.

    Mr. Berg, who says he donated about $200 to Mrs. Clinton's campaign, may represent the fringe of the pro-Hillary faction that hasn't warmed to Mr. Obama.

    He has filed suits for clients against President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, claiming they knew about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks before they happened. He also publicly asked Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and Sandra Day O'Connor to disbar themselves for their decision in the controversial 2001 case Bush v. Gore.

    Mr. Berg has posted documents on his Web site, ObamaCrimes.com, he says back up his claims. But he said he doesn't know where they originated.

    Backers of the idea that Mr. Obama isn't a natural-born citizen say Mr. Obama's certification of live birth doesn't quell the issue. They say a certification can be obtained after birth.

    But the Hawaii State Department of Health said Monday that there is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID, said Alvin Onaka, a research and statistics officer at the Department of Health.

    In Hawaii, only the person named on the certificate or his family can request the certificate of live birth.

    Several fact-checking groups, such as FactCheck.org and PolitiFact.com have determined that the certification posted on Mr. Obama's Web site is authentic.

    Mr. Obama's opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, has faced questions about his qualification as a "natural-born citizen" as well.

    Mr. McCain was born on a military installation in the Panama Canal Zone, where his father, a Navy officer, was stationed.

    Theodore Olson, a former solicitor general who is advising the McCain campaign, said in February that he's confident Mr. McCain meets the constitutional requirement. Legal scholars say there is no precedent on the subject because all previous presidents have been born within the 50 states or territories that became states.
     
  2. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    I don't think this will stick in court. I also doubt that the Mainstream media is even going to mention it on TV.

    It's not like the DNC would take Obama off the ticket and put Hillary on. That would completely destroy the party.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    So what is wrong with this part?
     
  5. Uprising

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    LOL. wow. Doubt this thing will go through, but still can't believe it's happening either.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

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    The mere fact that it's happening is unprecedented. This is legitimate, people. If nothing else, Obama is going to have to answer for why he can't turn up his birth certificate AND whether or not he has been a citizen of Indonesia.

    It's unreal how the mainstream media has given him a free pass on vetting. Unreal.
     
  7. cson

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    Again So what is wrong with this part?

    Do you even read your own post? (see: the Obama/Oprah thread re: before he announced he was running for president.)
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    A lot of work has been done by other groups -- more rigorous work -- that indicates that his COLB is a fake. Isn't FactCheck.org controlled by the Annenburg Foundation (Obama is linked to that through Bill Ayers). So not a whole lot of cred there...
     
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    Can I see some of this work online anywhere?
     
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    And Politicofact too?

    Christ,
    I'm outta feed. :rolleyes:
     
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    This is Materially False. Awaiting your apology for spreading malicious lies.

    TIA

    Born in the U.S.A.
    August 21, 2008
    Updated: August 26, 2008
    The truth about Obama's birth certificate.

    Summary
    In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

    We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

    Analysis
    Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

    Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

    Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

    Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

    Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

    Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.


    Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

    The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
    It isn't signed.
    No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.

    In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
    The certificate number is blacked out.
    The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
    The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

    Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.



    The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller

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    See more at-
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
     
  12. El_Conquistador

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    That's the certificate of live birth. Not the birth certificate. Factcheck purposefully conflates the two to mislead. Factcheck is linked with Bill Ayers' Annenburg foundation. It's not unbiased.

    There are many other holes in their analysis, and KEY PIECES missing from it on purpose. The TexasDarlin blog and Noquarter has reviewed this in detail and dismissed it as bunk. Wonder why Obama went to Hawaii on vacation? Now you know. Check the dates on when the 'rebuttal' came out.

    The good news is that this lawsuit ought to smoke out all of these lies from the Obama camp. If this progresses further, he will be forced to produce the actual documents -- not rely on fraudulent photos and postings to DailyKos.
     
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    wow, Hawaii was way ahead of the curve.

    my birth records were all hand written. That was 1978.
     
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    And just how successful were his lawsuits against Bush and Cheney regarding their prior knowledge of the Sept 11 attacks?
     
  15. justtxyank

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    TJ, is there anywhere online that posts any of this information for review?
     
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    Notice The original "news" was posted over a week ago....

    Talk about desperation...
     
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    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/

    The AP caption reads: “This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam. (AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)” [NOTE: the AP did verify the photo]

    What This Documentation Means

    This AP photo is compelling evidence of the following assertions, which have been set forth on this blog:

    1. Barack Obama had Indonesian citizenship

    2. Barack Obama had the legal name Barry Soetoro

    3. Barack Obama was a Muslim, despite his “fight the smears” claim that he never has been. (see new story that we just posted on this topic).

    When was Barack Obama going to tell the electorate about his Indonesian identity and citizenship?

    What is the current status of his Indonesian citizenship?

    Did Barack Obama travel to Pakistan in 1981 on an Indonesian passport?

    Does his birth certificate say Barry Soetoro?

    Did he ever legally change his name from Soetoro to Obama?

    Is the correct name on the ballot?
     
  18. El_Conquistador

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    The papers were served in the last 48 hours.
     
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    But the Hawaii State Department of Health said Monday that there is no difference between a certificate and a certification of live birth in the eyes of the state. For instance, either can be used to confirm U.S. citizenship to obtain a passport or state ID, said Alvin Onaka, a research and statistics officer at the Department of Health.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    Read your own article...

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

    Here's the birth announcement...

    [​IMG]

    Careful where you tread TJ... you're now officially in loonyville with people like Steve Doocy, Jerome Corsi, and this lady:

     

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