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North Colorado, the 51st State

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...osal-wording-for-51st-state-northern-colorado

    http://www.51ststate.org/tp50/page.asp?ID=314896
     
  2. bobmarley

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    Do you think this will pass muster?
     
  3. Commodore

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    it would have to be approved by first the state legislature/governor and then the US Congress, that's a tall order
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Give or take every link in the chain of command of every law enforcement, military and executive administration at the city, county, state and federal level. They'd also have to convince the Supreme Court to overturn Texas v. White.
     
  5. Commodore

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    nah, the Constitution spells out what is needed to form a state from within a state (basically how West Virginia was formed)

    http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec3.html

    so you would just need the Colorado legislature and the US Congress to approve
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    Theres no way this goes through, if every state that had differences within it tried to split we'd have 80 states.

    And they know this won't go through, it's just grandstanding
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    Californians have discussed this for many years... splitting somewhere across the middle of the state, usually in response to the southern part wanting to gain more of a conservative political position and the northern part wanting to not have all of its natural resources including water go south.

    I didn't read the link (rarely do) but are the reasons the Coloradans want to split driven by right wing politics?
     
  8. mc mark

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    Hey Colorado!
     
  9. Dubious

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    "Last year we were in the midst of a drought. We also were having horrible fires in our mountain areas. The Governor declared a state of emergency for the fires and was able to use the high mountain reservoirs, the water out of the high mountain reservoirs to help put out the fires...We asked him to declare a drought and a statewide emergency for here in Weld County...so that we could turn on the wells and take that water out of the, the same water, only it's an underground reservoir, and use it for the drought. We were told no," Kirkmeyer said.

    yes, fire and drought are the same level of issue, moran
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    will need the House to go red next year to help this
     
  11. Classic

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    Don't people in California want to do this too---like San Diego area?

    Seems highly unlikely
     
  12. Dubious

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    It's laughable. This Congress can't pass a judicial appointment; they could never deal with arranging 51 stars much less the political implications of adding two Senators.

    Secessionist are jokes, State splitters are jokes.
     
  13. Codman

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    I was born in Denver, but the people in the counties that were mentioned are widely known as fringe, mainly because they are isolated, by choice of course.


    What a waste of time and money, depending on how much is spent through this exploratory process.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    Would be interesting to say the least.
    Meanwhile - Puerta Rico and Washington DC remain on the sidelines

    Rocket River
     
  15. geeimsobored

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    Really its a bunch of anger now that Democrats basically run the entire state. Republicans lost almost every statewide office and both houses of the legislature which is rather stunning considering that Republicans had almost total control of the state until very recently.

    And most importantly, it has to do with the new gun control laws they passed after the aurora and newtown shootings. I want to say 3 Democratic senators are also facing recall elections as well. All the other liberal stuff the legislature passed was tolerable but once they tried gun control, the lunatics came out in force.
     
  16. Dubious

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    Harris County and Travis County should apply for statehood.
     
  17. Commodore

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    Slavery has attached an undeserved stigma to these things. Devolution and localization of power is in general a good thing. Our country was born by an act of secession from the crown.

    If there are regions with strongly differing views it might make sense for them to split rather than one side imposing their will on the other.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    Isn't that cute. Getting it by the US Congress is completely impossible.

    The State of Harris would be bigger than North Colorado. Probably bigger than both Coloradoes combined.
     
  19. Commodore

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    That you would characterize them as such (fringe kook lunatics) might explain their desire to separate.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    On the flip side, the smaller states won't have sufficient scale to leverage, weakening them politically and economically. Maybe sometimes people should just accept that they don't get to have their way.
     

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