There's so much wrong to this post. Where'd the premium go? We can start by reevaluating that first paragraph.
This is true. This is the fact people seem to scoff off when concerns come up. We are talking about huge numbers of adults working in the schools, and living in the homes the kids go home to. Then you add in those who have not been in lockdown by choice, who also come into contact with each and every one of them outside their work. Do none of these people matter? The spread will get worse. By the way @Trader_Jorge, according to the CDC approximately 35% of those with Covid-19 are asymptomatic, however they are still as infectious as people with symptoms. https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/resources/covid-19-faqs-for-health-professionals.html You might feel fine making yourself a guinea pig as an employee at a school, but concerns are valid, for so many reasons, both inside and outside the school settings. If you don't believe that this could lead to a bigger problem than we already have then I can't change your mind, facts or not. This isn't just a liberal finger pointing name blaming game. Even the President still blames China for the spread here, when we could have done more to stop it, and frankly still can. When you see a city with a Democratic Mayor like Houston pleading for stronger measures and a Trump suckup Governor tying their hands and eazing up, not allowing stronger enforcement, etc...then they share a big part of the blame. The Governors like Abbott and DeSantos opened up too soon. We stil have bars, clubs, restaurants and other non-essential businesses open, as do most states. They all touted the no mask needed style of leadership far too long, making it a political stance. Even now those same leaders tell people to wear masks, but don't lead by example. All you see is a bunch of Maskless mingling money hungry morons at their high price fundraisers. That being said, people need to come together and set the right example, starting from the top. People shouldn't be put into a position of losing their job to risk their life. People are being pressured into going to a job where testing is simply not a provided reassurance. They shouldn't be losing health insurance or their lives by being afraid of risking their life either. Nobody will die lagging behind a year by no school, or virtual learning, but people will die if this spread gets worse. That's a fact.
Not sure why y'all bother responding to the obvious idiocy spewed by Lil' tj. Even if he were remotely correct (he's not), kids can still be carriers. Schools are run by adults. I'm legitimately nervous about my ex-wife going back to her elementary school this fall once they allow kids back in. My dad's wife's daughter (yes, technically my step sister but that's a thing I'm not getting into now) decided to quit at least for this year.
Sorry dude , You are dead wrong on this. The following is a post on another forum from a friend of mine who is a doctor .... he worked on the ebola vaccine also. https://www.chicagotribune.com/coro...0200718-5q5eo4ylibcwppd2haxwvdp6re-story.html
If nutjobs like yourself and @bigtexxx just agreed to wear masks, schools could reopen yes. But instead your dear Kim Jong wannabe leader botched that and now wants to send sick people to spend all day with healthy ones in close proximity. What could go wrong? Ironically, had Trump put public health first above his what his pundits told him about reelection he'd probably be a lot more competitive right now.
That's my point. Instead of trying to extinguish it, which we could have done by "violating rights" with a complete national shutdown of say 6 weeks or less, we're STILL trying to pretend it will "just go away like nothing" like the President seemed to suggest in February, when we had five cases. Well, we've got 150,000 deaths, and it ain't slowing down.
You may need to take a break and take your temperature as a precautionary measure. You're starting to sound a little irrationally delusional. I would hate to lose one of my favorite comedic outlets on this board to an illness so benign as Covid-19. BE WELL
I keep maintaining that had this not happened in an election year (especially with this president), our numbers would be so much better. Instead, it's all politicized and people refuse to work with one another.
'The thing about smart people is that they seem like crazy people to dumb people.' This Stephen Hawking quote is quite relevant in this thread. There is so much stupidity in this thread, it's shocking. People living in fear of the absurd, and people illogically thinking that everything is a high risk to them. Some people would prefer the coffin of their comfort zone to actually living their life. At some point, you have to accept that life involves risk. How you manage that risk should be up to YOU, not the government. And given all the flipping and flopping of the medical "experts", I think it's safe to now conclude that they don't know what the hell they are doing. It's a novel virus - there is no playbook. So to naively assume that the "experts" know what to do is pure folly. And to base public policy on these experts with horrible track records... well, it's irresponsible. We voluntarily nuked the greatest economy in the history of the world with lockdowns and "cornteen" without even knowing whether A) it would help; or B) what the downside risks would involve. More died because of this awful public policy. A few additional points to educate many of you who need it: We have more known cases in the USA because we are leading the world in testing by far. We have a smaller % of undetected cases than other countries. More tests = more detected cases; especially when asymptomatics are being tested (unusual in other countries). Democratic governors are most responsible for the death tally. Cuomo, Murphy, Wolf, Whitmer all sent COVID patients into nursing homes, where they wiped out thousands of elderly. This didn't happen in Republican-led states. The virus is basically unstoppable in its spread. And it tends to take the same 6-8 weeks to cycle through a geography once it really catches fire. It's silly to assume that people have control over it by wearing a cloth face covering or undergoing a partial lockdown. A lot of the spread happens at home or in the non-locked down areas (people's homes = #1, Walmart, HEB, CVS, etc). Read up on Illusion of Control - the phenomenon of overestimating your ability to control events. COVID is a classic example. Climate change is a close #2. More people will die and more lives will be negatively impacted by locking down healthy people than by letting people live. Due to undiagnosed other illnesses, skipped doctor's visits, suicides, depression, etc. GOOD DAY
I write a beautifully written, ultra-premium post filled with content and wisdom... and Deckard pinches off this stinky turd of a post. Quite a stark contrast. He can’t touch my arguments so he doesn’t even try. Instead just chooses the insults route. Pitiful.
Masks are definitely a big factor in helping to halt the spread, but one cannot overlook social distancing and in a school environment that is going to be well nigh impossible. Handwashing is also very important and kids are notorious for lack of good personal hygiene. Personally, I would wait for a widely available vaccine
There is so much stupidity in your remarks it is mind blowing. Your points you made to so call educate people are the same BS lies Trump has been touting all along. That you actually stand by your statements just proves how blinded you are by any real truth in this whole situation. "We have more known cases in the USA because we are leading the world in testing by far." - Not per capita "Democratic governors are most responsible for the death tally." - Slightly misleading since the majority of those deaths started in NY, where lessons were learned the hard way. What's the excuse now for Republican governors being the majority of the highest death counts going on right now as a majority? They learned nothing from NY or Italy. All they push is to not close down non-essential businesses and schools. They also made mask free rallies and fundraisers a political stance over health. " The virus is basically unstoppable in its spread." While that may be true, European countries proved that stricter and longer lockdowns have saved lives. Many had more cases than us in March, and now have less than Harris County each day. "More people will die and more lives will be negatively impacted by locking down healthy people than by letting people live. Due to undiagnosed other illnesses, skipped doctor's visits, suicides, depression, etc." - Simply not all true. Yes, more people will die from skipping visits, etc...but many more will die from being around Maskless, careless, party going selfish people spreading this around without a care for anyone but themselves. Many will die because of having to wait 2 weeks to even get a damn test result, and many will die because the hospitals will be forced to choose who lives and who gets sent home to die. Many of those ER rooms and tests are being used to treat and test people who still believe it won't hurt them and don't give a damn about who they are in contact with while eating out, drinking out, partying and having a jolly good time with friends and family. This is a big part of the problem across America. Too many people like you who simply say live and let die.
Why don't you take the time to read yourself? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Quote "Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.” https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/ According to the CDC approximately 35% of those with Covid-19 are asymptomatic, however they are still as infectious as people with symptoms. https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/resources/covid-19-faqs-for-health-professionals.html Infectious definition adjective (of a disease or disease-causing organism) likely to be transmitted to people, organisms, etc., through the environment. Similar: contagious, communicable, transmittable, transferable, spreadable, communicable likely to spread infection. "the dogs may still be infectious"
