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Minn. Teen Goes on Rampage; Eight Killed in school

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  1. Houstonrocketss

    Houstonrocketss Member

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    I did some checking and this school has 300 students only!!! how bizarre

    RED LAKE, Minn. - A high school student went on a shooting rampage on this Indian reservation Monday, killing his grandparents at their home and then five people at his school, "grinning and waving" as he fired, authorities and witnesses said. The gunman was later found shot to death.


    It was the nation's worst school shooting since the Columbine massacre in 1999.


    Students pleaded with the gunman to stop shooting.


    "You could hear a girl saying, 'No, Jeff, quit, quit. Leave me alone. What are you doing?" Sondra Hegstrom told The Pioneer of Bemidji, using the name of the suspected shooter.


    Before the shootings at Red Lake High School, the suspect's grandparents were shot in their home and died later.


    Four students were killed and two others critically wounded. Also killed were a teacher and a security guard, FBI (news - web sites) spokesman Paul McCabe said at a news conference in Minneapolis.


    Hegstrom described the gunman grinning and waving at a student his gun was pointed at, then swiveling to shoot someone else. "I looked him in the eye and ran in the room, and that's when I hid," she told The Pioneer.


    McCabe declined to talk about a possible connection between the suspect and the couple killed at the home, but Red Lake Fire Director Roman Stately said they were the grandparents of the shooter. He identified the shooter's grandfather as Daryl Lussier, a longtime officer with the Red Lake Police Department, and said Lussier's guns may have been used in the shootings.


    Stately said the shooter had two handguns and a shotgun.


    "After he shot a security guard, he walked down the hallway shooting and went into a classroom where he shot a teacher and more students," Stately told Minneapolis television station KARE.


    Students and a teacher at the scene, Diane Schwanz, said the shooter tried to break down a door to get into a room where some students were.


    "I just got on the floor and called the cops," Schwanz told the Pioneer. "I was still just half-believing it."


    Ashley Morrison, another student, took refuge in a classroom. With the shooter banging on the door, she dialed her mother on her cell phone. Her mother, Wendy Morrison, said she could hear gunshots on the line.


    "'Mom, he's trying to get in here and I'm scared,'" Ashley Morrison told her mother.


    Schwanz was the teacher in that room. She said, "I just got down on the floor and (said), 'Kids, down on the ground, under the benches!'" She said she called police on her cell phone.


    All of the dead students were found in one room. One of them was a boy believed to be the shooter, McCabe said. He would not comment on reports that the boy shot himself and said it was too early to speculate on a motive.


    Fourteen to 15 other students were injured, including two critically, McCabe said.





    The school was evacuated after the shootings and locked down for investigation, McCabe said.

    "It will probably take us throughout the night to really put the whole picture together," he said.

    It was the nation's worst school shooting since two students at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before killing themselves on April 20, 1999.

    The last apparent fatal school shootings involving a student also happened in Minnesota in September 2003, when two students were killed at Rocori High School in Cold Spring. Classmate John Jason McLaughlin, who was 15 at the time of the shooting, awaits trial in the case.

    That shooting was the first major incident reported since 2001.

    Red Lake High School, on the Red Lake Indian Reservation, has about 300 students, according to its Web site.

    The reservation is about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities. It is home to the Red Lake Chippewa Tribe, one of the poorest in the state. According to the 2000 census, 5,162 people lived on the reservation, and all but 91 were full-blooded Indians.
     
    #1 Houstonrocketss, Mar 21, 2005
  2. VinceCarter

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    just wondering.... do shootings like this happen across the world??? i don't ever hear of this stuff from Europe-Asia and other places??? is it me or is this a problem in the U.S?
     
    #2 VinceCarter, Mar 21, 2005
  3. bigtexxx

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    It happens around the world, also. Maybe not with the frequency of here, though. There was a terrible one a couple of years ago in Germany where 18 people were shot dead. There was also one in Alberta Canada a few years back, as well.
     
    #3 bigtexxx, Mar 21, 2005
  4. Harrisment

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    Wow.....thats horrible. :(
     
    #4 Harrisment, Mar 21, 2005
  5. Isabel

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    Shades of Columbine and all those others that happened around the same time. :( I had hoped that it was over.

    + for the victims and families
     
    #5 Isabel, Mar 21, 2005
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    You might wanna change the title... cuz 10 are now dead in the shooting... what a horrible incident!

    While cops in the Canadian province of New Brunswick prevented another Columbine-type shooting at a local highschool that was scheduled at the anniversary of the incident, now we see another one happening...

    There is definitely something wrong with the North American school system as we see oppressed students performing or trying to perform Columbine-wannabe stunts over and over again in different towns across US and Canada...

    Bullying is a big issue at stake... and if the bullied aren't dealt with properly, we cannot guarantee these people doing the same thing now and six years ago when they feel they are out of hope and their voices have fallen into deaf ears as schools trying to cover them so that their reputations are not tarnished...
     
    #6 kwik_e_mart, Mar 21, 2005
  7. Sishir Chang

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    In the past two days there's been two stories making national news out of Minnesota.

    Both were about boys in highschool.

    One was about a boy who hit an incredible shot in the state highschool basketball championship.

    The other was about a boy who killed several of his own family and classmates.

    Its a sad day here in the Star of the North State.....
     
    #7 Sishir Chang, Mar 22, 2005
  8. Lil Pun

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    Very sad. My girl went to Westside and was actually at school when that shooting took place. :(
     
    #8 Lil Pun, Mar 22, 2005
  9. DaDakota

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    Not NEARLY as often as it does here in the USA.

    Because guns are not as easy to get around the world as they are here.

    DD
     
    #9 DaDakota, Mar 22, 2005
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    in Japan, they like to use knives.
     
    #10 Kam, Mar 22, 2005
  11. arno_ed

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    damn that is scary.
    (p.s. is this the girl Your thread is about? or have you found another one)

    This has not yet happened in the netherlands, There have been some teacher killed by students in holland, i think2 or 3 in the last couple of years.
     
    #11 arno_ed, Mar 22, 2005
  12. Oski2005

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    I wonder if there were any incidents of kids shooting up school houses in the 1800's?

    I didn't watch any news yesterday, but watching CNN and Fox right now and this doesn't seem to be getting the same coverage that Columbine did. It's all about Schiavo right now.
     
    #12 Oski2005, Mar 22, 2005
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    Since this happened on an Indian reservation, I'm sure America's collective and selective conscience will soon forget all about it if our past treatment of American-Indians are any indication. I don't think this will be nearly as big as Columbine not just because Columbine was worse...but because Columbine happened in a white, upscale American school.
     
    #13 Surfguy, Mar 22, 2005
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    Not as frequently as in the U.S., thanks to little policy called Gun Controll.
     
    #14 LegendZ3, Mar 22, 2005
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    I doubt it. There was not any forced schooling in the 1800's. Plus the school experience was completely different. The school system of today is a factory designed to create compliant citizens. It is understandable that a few defects come out of that system.
     
    #15 Agent94, Mar 22, 2005
  16. Hippieloser

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    Not understandable that they can get their hands on guns, though.
     
    #16 Hippieloser, Mar 22, 2005
  17. s land balla

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    why isn't this getting the press that columbine got?
     
    #17 s land balla, Mar 22, 2005
  18. Sishir Chang

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    Because its on a res rather than a suburb.

    Here in Minnesota we have one of the largest Native American populations in the US and there still is a lot of racism towards them. In recent years with controversy over the casinos and native hunting rights there's been continued animosity towards natives.
     
    #18 Sishir Chang, Mar 22, 2005
  19. Agent94

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    How much history do you know? I don't own any guns and I don't really like them. However, if we lose the right to own guns, we lose the ultimate check against government power.


     
    #19 Agent94, Mar 22, 2005
  20. No Worries

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    We lose the right to shoot the elected bast*rds? Hmmm.
     
    #20 No Worries, Mar 22, 2005
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