Maybe this is why LeBron never considered Houston?

Yup, for some reason only the Rox get HATE for not stopping the worriers dynasty despite the fact that NO ONE has. We came the closest and should have last year if not for bad luck and bad refs. Again, NO ONE, did it and we came the closest by far so they should all STFU!

 

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They aren't getting hate for not beating them, but for melting down. There was 2017. Last year was just bad luck (after cp3 injury harden was bad though). This year they had a chance with Durant down but they actually played worse after the Durant injury.

Also LeBron beat them in 2016. I think also the bucks have a legit shot and the raptors made a risky trade for kawhi.

 

He had 1 choke job against dallas. He wasn't any good against the spurs the 1st time. Other than that he has been very good in the finals. Lebron is pretty much top 5 in the all the major statistical categories in the playoffs.

 

The team Lebron beat was pre Durant and the only reason he beat them was because Bogut was out with an injury and Draymond was suspended.

I am pretty confident that this Rockets team would have taken that team out as well.

Post Durant, no one has played the Warriors better than we have, and if CP3 wasnt injured last year, Warriors would have been out and we wouldnt even be having this discussion.

 

LeDone (trying to stay relevant via twitter lulz) is speaking like his teams played much different, his teams have always been an iso fest, with guys like Irving, Love, Bosh and Wade standing there watching him create, they probably took some more mid range shots than us cause you know, they had one or two more players able to do that consistently since he always played with two all stars in their prime.

Also kinda funny to think he won a chip with the Cavs cause Irving chucked up a 3 and one in Miami cause Allen saved his ass forcing a 3 from the corner.

 

He was struggling against the Heat the second time they met as well.

Ray Allen saved his legacy with the clutch 3 pointer.

Most of his playoff games were against weak Eastern teams on whom he was feasting.

He has a 33% success rate in the finals over 9 Finals appearance and had his ass handed to him while he was on a super team more than once.

 

Yes, LeBron took advantage of golden state losing a player. He saw the opportunity and seized it.

The warriors bench is crap after they spent their money on cousins and Durant. But the rockets didn't take advantage even when Curry played only 12 minutes in the first half. 57-57 vs Klay green and scrubs was a weak effort

 

Curry + Klay + Green + Iggy + Livingston + Looney.

If you are calling that lineup a scrub, what does that make our lineup with Clint not even contributing and old mana Nene and Green coming off the bench??

If anything, the argument to be made here is that Rockets have OVERACHIEVED against the Warriors two seasons in a row based on talent.

The only reason the Warriors couldnt run away from the Rockets was because of Rockets 3 point shooting. 3 points give Rockets a fighting chance. Had the Rockets started trading 2 pointers with the Warriors, there would be no way for Rockets to make up the talent gap.

And THAT is the point of this thread.

 

this. for a team supposedly being in the elite category, they couldn't even capitalize on a team with curry struggling and green also in foul trouble. All the while trotting out the likes of cook, jerebko, bell, and amongst others.

nobody should be downplaying lebron playing them missing someone. especially if you're going to try and use it to defend the rockets. It was a 2-2 series and they were suddenly spoon fed an opportunity from the end of game 5 on. and they **** the bed

 

Don’t know why he’s getting heat here. As much of a drama queen as he is, I’d certainly trust lebron a hell of a lot more than anyone in rockets org. Dude is a winner, what’s the best we can say? Morey put together a team last year that ALMOST beat the warriors? Great u spend all your effort trying to beat one team and they still beat you.

 

lol

Lakers trusted Lebron.

He couldn't even get them into the playoffs.

The only shots Lebron is taking this playoffs is on twitter.

Regarding your last two sentences, thats the whole point of assembling a contending team....to attempt to dethrone the champions which also happen to be one of the best teams ever assembled. Duh.

 

Gotta pair superstars with just regular all stars or slightly lesser players that know how and when to defer. Even those commodities don't come cheap. For example instead of a Jimmy Butler which would put the team think of solid skilled under the radar players like Joe Ingles who seems to be friends Harden.

 

Iggy, Livingston and looney? Nothing special. Look up their stats.


Yes Klay and green are good, but they are really role players too. Klay can't create his own shot. Green can't shoot at all and is turnover prone.

Point is Curry elevates those guys and makes things easier for them. Harden needs to do the same, that's what superstars do

 

You havent been paying attention to Iggy, Livingston, and especially Klay during their championship runs.

And that is exactly why most folks here are shocked and disappointed that Warriors pulled it off.

I didnt find it shocking at all, and in fact expected the outcome, even after Durant's injury.

 

Nah. Lebron wants to make movies. Winning championships at this point in his career is secondary.

 

They do great because curry elevates their game. A team with Klay as the #1 wouldn't be that good. Even a team with Klay and green as the top 2 wouldn't really be a contender. Very good players but not superstars

 

Curry is great but so is Klay and Green is absolutely essential to their defensive schemes.

Klay's hot shooting is what gave Curry a chance in second half.

Klay's hot shooting is what killed Durant and Westbrook when they played in the playoffs before Durant joined them.

Consider the other perspective. One could argue that Chris Paul struggling this series, the Rockets had no business being in this series. It was basically Harden + role players. And you dont get to six games against the Warriors if Harden was not producing or getting his teammates open looks.

Just because Curry was great, does not take away what Harden was trying to do for his team.

The Warriors are a better team and champions and they won.

Also consider this for a second. What do you think the outcome of the series would have been with Curry playing with Clint and Harden playing with Draymond?

The talent gap between the two teams is actually very wide which is why Curry can afford to have off games and he did. Harden does not have that luxury. He needs to have excellent games every single night for Rockets to win against the Warriors.

 

isn't the general assumption that klay/green are nothing more than role players and if they had their own team they'd get exposed. well no kd/cousins and a struggling steph certainly didn't look that way. And an especially less deep bench. They beat a fully healthy rockets team twice.

 

Lol at least we were in the playoffs unlike someone.

 

That was an NBA inside job suspending Draymond and EVERYONE knows it.