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[Max Kellerman] Hakeem needed Jordan to retire to win 2 rings

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    No people agree with Barkley if his opinion is the same as theirs

    Barkley knows more about hoops than Kellerman, but Kellerman knows how to antagonize Clutchfans
    because he always says the opposite of Stephen A Smith

    I wonder why that is?

    Could it be... ... just acting cause they can't go off on entertaining tangents like Barkley?
    or can he can't tell old NBA stories like Barkley cause he never played in the NBA


    What was the last player who helped the Rockets got to the WCF before Harden??


    Oh it's Barkley
     
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    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Barkley also helped them lose due to a lazy rotation against Stockton. He couldn't be trusted then either.

    His ****** should be boasting about Houston's great restuarants, but since Les owes him money .....

    Mr Beadle
    #weakminded
     
  3. ApacheWarrior

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    Rockets and Bulls faced 2 times a year. Vernon Maxwell said it best. 3 years prior to Jordan going for baseball.
    5 wins to 1 loss vs Bulls.
     
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    He was injured

    But I KNOW I WAS THERE when that era happened
     
  5. tinman

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    A real Rockets fan RELISHES the defeat of the Seattle Super Sonics in 1997
    A real Rockets fan remember we would DO ANYTHING to beat them
    A real Rockets fan remembers BARKLEY was the reason we beat them
     
  6. ApacheWarrior

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    Yes just reaffirmed from basketball-reference.com

    1 loss to Bulls in 91-92 season. 2 wins in 90-91 and 2 wins in 92-93 vs Bulls.
     
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    you speak truths
     
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    Just an FYI. Bulls won those 3 straight years. Like the Rockets being built to compete with today’s Warriors.
    I believe the Rockets were built to compete with those Bulls. Like Jordan said, thank goodness the Rockets
    didn’t get out of the West in those years. Mad Max didn’t back down from Jordan.

    Rockets did their part and got to the finals 2 years in a row. Bulls failed because of Jordan retirement and
    Magic upstarts beating them with the rusty Jordan. But then the Bulls won 3 straight again. Age beat us.
     
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    With that logic you could say that Jordan had to wait until Bird and the Celtics were old and broken down to win his first title (the Lakers were old and broken down as well).
     
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    It's sad that Kellerman's opinion is the most common opinion outside of Houston fans. Most agree with this stupid sentiment.
     
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    I heard Kellerman doesn't have a left hemisphere.
     
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    Age didn't beat us. What happened was we knew we could beat the Bulls, but had to build our team to beat the Sonics. The Barkley signing did that for us and we started beating Sonics with our Big 3 of Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler. The thing is, by building a Sonic killer, we lost our match up strength against the Jazz. so we traded one bad match up for another.

    Also, for the Bulls' 2nd 3peat, they got rodman as their answer to dominant centers. To stop the likes of Shaq who killed them in the playoffs, and Hakeem if Houston ever made the finals the same time as the Bulls.

    With Rodman, I don't know if the Rockets would beat the 96-98 Bulls. As for the first 3peat (91-93 Bulls), The rockets would have won at minimum 1 of them if not 2 titles if they made it to the finals all 3 of those years.

    For arguments sake, let's say the Sonics don't exist and we make finals from 91-93. We win 91 and 92. Maybe lose 93 becauseo f how hard it is to 3peat. Then come back for 94 and 95. We could have to back-to-backs. Or we have a 3peat with another title thrown in somewhere. I solely believe no team can win 4 titles in a row in the modern era (From the 80's onward).
     
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    yes and if you keep repeating the lie that Jordan wasn't in the league in 1995 then everyone will believe it.

    and sadly this is what happened.

    This is the greatest lie in the history of mankind
     
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    If you say so. I seem to remember Olajuwon, Drexler, Barkley constant injuries in 95/96.....because of age.

    Barkley insisted on being traded to Houston. If you see the documentary “Clutch City” it talks about it.

    Rodman couldn’t handle the same Olajuwon who spun David Robinson like a top or the Olajuwon
    that put Shaq in his place. Father Time caught up to Olajuwon. Again in my opinion,

    *side note. Joke when Barkley makes fun of Durant for chasing rings.....when that’s what he did.
    But he can change history now. Sorry Tinman, Chunkie will deny, deny until the day he die.
     
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    Getting Rodman is more of not letting the Bulls get him.
    If we had Barkley and Rodman and Dream, nobody can stop us rebounding
     
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    It's just one of those myths that someone said once and everyone went with it because it makes history seem simple.
     
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    Ultimately, the rockets should have the biggest Dynast in history.... #Big3 Hakeem/MJ/Drexler. All of us know the story.

    Damn you Ralph Sampson and looking like the GOAT for your first few years in the league.
     
  19. tinman

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    You know that Barkley was pissed at the Rockets
    you can tell

    However, you can tell Kellerman is just saying stuff about the Rockets cause he's paid to.


    I mean you can pay me to talk about Bobsledding too . I'll find something to say but there won't be any meaning and depth to my comments.


    There's nothing to Kellerman's comments, nothing . He's like a dude working at McDonald's, He's not really happy to serve you.
     
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