I re-watched Captain America: The Winter Solder this weekend (I moved it back up to my #1 favorite solo MCU film, so ****ing good), and caught a quote that foreshadows this movie, or at least the title: Spoiler Dr. Arnim Zola : HYDRA was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize was that if you tried to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly. After the war, S.H.I.E.L.D. was founded, and I was recruited. The new HYDRA grew, a beautiful parasite inside S.H.I.E.L.D. For 70 years, HYDRA has been secretly feeding crises, reaping war. And when history did not cooperate, history was changed. Natasha Romanoff : That's impossible. S.H.I.E.L.D. would've stopped you. Dr. Arnim Zola : Accidents will happen. HYDRA created a world so chaotic that humanity is finally ready to sacrifice its freedom to gain its security. Once the purification process is complete, HYDRA's New World Order will arise. We won, Captain. Your death amounts to the same as your life, a zero sum! @boomboom here's your video
Is the movie going to called “New Wold Order” or “Brave New World”? Should just call “Captain America: New Order”
I'm totally looking forward to Hawkeye sans bow with shield. So...I gotta sit in a theater to watch it?
Forgive me for not following every Marvel spinoff or TV show, but... Sam doesn't have any superpowers, right? I mean - he's cool as Falcon with his wing suit.... but Steve Rogers had super strength, endurance, durability, rejuvenation, reflexes, speed, senses, etc. Sam is gonna be Captain America, but without any super powers?
Right. He's an 'optimal' human athlete. I'm 100% sure they will explore this in the movie. He also has robot wings that do Iron Man style tricks and an (almost) indestructible shield he can use as a weapon and can absorb the energy from hits from guys like the Hulk. But Hawkeye and Black Widow were both 'normal' humans and kicked some ass in the Avengers, right? Here he is training with the shield in Falcon & The Winter Soldier:
I'm not saying Sam can't kick ass. He kicked ass as Falcon... and Hawkeye and Black Widow kick ass, too... ...but not nearly on the same level as those with super powers. And even though his Falcon wings are cool and powerful, they're not nearly on the same level as Iron Man's suit. Sorry, but that just doesn't sell with me. If Sam doesn't have super powers, he can't be Captain America. I mean... that would mean ANYBODY can be Captain America.
Marvel built this strong set of characters that we all fell in love with... ...and then destroyed them all in Infinity War, Endgame, and shortly afterward. Thor: fat Iron Man: killed Captain America: made him old Hulk: professor hulk Black Widow: killed Gamora: killed and replaced from another reality Vision: killed Scarlet Witch: turned into a villain and killed Loki: killed and replaced from another reality By destroying all the characters we liked, and trying to replace them with woke garbage, Marvel just shot themselves in the foot and are now unable to recover.
It's established in the show that anyone can be Cap. It's a mantle now, like Black Panther. Or I guess Hawkeye. At any rate, I'm cautiously optimistic. It's more of a team movie and (one of?) the villain is Red Hulk, who is badass.
Actually, you could argue Falcons wings are better than Ironmans suit since they're made of vibranium and Wakandan tech. And, as Xero mentioned Cap is intended to be a mantle now. The reality is Steve Rogers wasn't much of a match, on a power scale, for most of the bad guys in the Avengers movies either. But, I think this post really is symbolic of how the general public feels. The whole mantle thing and even the multiverse thing works a lot better in the comics when you can just reverse course and change things whenever you feel like it. And, I honestly don't know why they're holding onto the Cap title anyway. Spiderman, F4, and Xmen are far more important to marvel. The only thing I can think is someone needs to kinda look like the leader for the upcoming Avengers movies (since Black Panther is gone and everyone hates Captain Marvel).
But they were extremely uninteresting as characters, basically could have done Avengers without them, and so is Falcon/New Cap. It is possible to make a hero successful/relevant without superpowers, such as DD and Batman, but most fall flat.
People read comic books for the escapist fantasy. Early MCU understood that when other studios did not. I don't gaf about underpowered TV show heroes because that's not the brand I originally signed up for.
