1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jeremy Lin as a Pekin Duck

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mig0s, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. Zboy

    Zboy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,956
    Let me help you out.

    LOFs like yoeddy live vicariously through Airemy so they need to make excuses for him and defend him.

    Here is the bottom line.

    Airemy, the mental midget, just got rejected by every single team in the NBA. Yes, he could have *tried* to see if things worked out for him in the Euro league to try to get back in the NBA (I wouldn't recommend it though, he is simply not good enough for NBA).

    However, the mental midget that he is, collected his L and took the easy way out to China.

    And he tried to sugar coat it with "helping kids in China". It is called saving face.

    The league has found out that he is a scrub and he was afraid that Euro league will find out that he is a scrub as well.

    There are two things needed to survive in the NBA: Mental toughness and talent. Airemy lacks both.
     
    tinman likes this.
  2. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    499
    He also got offers from the Euro League, Russia and Israel. He decided to play in China despite
    Can't say I am in any kind of agreement with your analysis. Going point-by-point:

    1) Yes, Lin did not receive any offers from NBA teams (or at least no offers that he was satisfied with). It was reported that he told his agent that he would only consider NBA offers where his role would be significant (eg. 1st backup PG, 3rd or 4th G in 4-guard rotation, etc). This means that Lin would only consider an NBA option if it allowed him to play a significant role on the team. This is in direct opposition to both your 1a and 1b...1a is invalid because it means that Lin feels that riding the bench in the NBA doesn't satisfy anybody (not himself, not his fans, not the kids in China). and 1b is a non-point because of the point made to debunk 1a.

    2) Agree that this point, the option that Lin took was to fulfill his dream of helping kids in China. 2a is invalid for the reasons why 1a and 1b are invalid. 2b is invalid because it doesn't consider the offers he had from Russia, Israel and the Euro League. All of those options offered better chances for Lin to get back to the NBA in a *meaningful role* than going to China. From the agent's and marketing CEO's perspective, the biggest money and marketing opportunities would be finding the shortest path back to the NBA...but knowing that Lin would not go back to the NBA without a meaningful role on a team, they encouraged him to consider these other options. But Lin has clearly decided that he's not interested in taking a multi-year road back to the NBA and has really just decided to play for the Ducks in the sunset of his basketball career so he can help kids in China and have some fun.

    So yes...the answer is obvious to any rational person looking at this, particularly anyone who has followed closely what Lin has actually done so far. Lin has given up his dream of playing a meaningful role on an NBA team and has decided to pursue his desire to play in China and help the kids there.
     
  3. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    499
    Where does it say he's injured? Regular season just started and the Ducks have only played 1 game.
     
  4. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    499
    At least you get the point that it was Lin's decision himself to forego the offers to play in Russia, Israel and the Euro League against the recommendations of his agent and his marketing CEO.

    9 year NBA career...better than the average. Takes mental toughness and talent to do it for that long.
     
  5. Zboy

    Zboy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,956
    9 years of bouncing around the league, getting rejected and dumped by team after team, until eventually no one wanted to even sign him, with him reduced to crying in front of his fans.

    Airemy, forever the mental midget.

    I will give him the credit for finally getting it that he is just not good enough for the NBA, or even the Euro league, and running off to the China league where he can learn from players around his caliber, and hopefully work on and improve his game....

    ...or let's just say "helping the kids" there. Because surely in a land of 1 billion +, there has to be a few that wants to learn basketball from this scrub lulz...

    "Hey Airemy, can you show me how to FAIL in the NBA to the point that no team wants to sign me?"

    [​IMG]
     
    #145 Zboy, Nov 5, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2019
    CometsWin and King1 like this.
  6. Zboy

    Zboy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    27,234
    Likes Received:
    21,956
    Yup.

    As you and I have always said it.

    A really bad basketballer, skill-wise and mentally.
     
    King1 likes this.
  7. MorningZippo

    MorningZippo Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,249
    Likes Received:
    2,516
    Okay, so we agree. Lin did not chose the ultimate good with regards to helping Kids in China, as he did not believe that it was attainable.

    Therefor, he took the best marketing opportunity he could actually achieve, in order to help kids in China.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
    What kids are he helping out ?

    Is he going to be a Christian evangelist in China ?
    No way , he doesn’t want to get his head chopped off

    is he helping kids become as successful as him?

    that’s not possible

    lin is one in a lifetime because it was two good weeks on the Knicks and then he lived off his fame every day after that

    the next Chinese kid coming to the nba is for sure is going to have to be significantly better than a third string point guard
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
    He cried in church
    A mega church
    In front of God and Jesus

    he told Jesus that this was his rock bottom

    Jesus the dude who was helping the sick and poor

    No he says he’s in China for the kids ?

    that’s lying
     
  10. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    56,359
    Likes Received:
    48,271
    Ug, this is hard to hear I hate liars.
     
  11. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
     
  13. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    56,359
    Likes Received:
    48,271
    Ouch, that makes Lin look terrible!
     
  14. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    499
    If you want to call it a marketing opportunity, that’s fine. I was arguing against the idea that he was doing it simply for the most money he could get. His decision to play in China was driven by his personal objectives, not financial objectives.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
    Will Jimmer drop 50 points on Jeremy Lin in the China league ?

    @Zboy
     
  16. MorningZippo

    MorningZippo Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,249
    Likes Received:
    2,516
    The response to that was that they’re one in the same. If he actually had to choose between money and personal goals, the outcome may have been different.

    The point of everyone except you is that we have no way of knowing with the knowledge we currently possess. He got money and marketing.
     
    CometsWin and tinman like this.
  17. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,862
    Likes Received:
    43,278
    [​IMG]

    Blood of teh Dragon.... the Duck.

    24+8+6 vs Shandong

    Second Game

    NBA numbers in the CBA.....spell mediocrity, at least the team won.....
     
  18. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,102
    Likes Received:
    40,707
    You should watch the highlights of these CBA games
    People are wide open like they are playing at 24 hour fitness
    @Jontro
     
  19. yoeddy

    yoeddy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2014
    Messages:
    2,832
    Likes Received:
    499
    For those of us who have followed his career and the decisions he's made over the years, it's obvious that he chooses personal goals ahead of financial goals. You may think that his contract with the Ducks is the most money he can make, but his playing in the CBA limits his global market potential drastically...if he had decided to play in the Euro League/Russia/Israel, he'd still have his fan market in China but also extend his marketability to those other geographies as well as keeping his potential future NBA opportunities. By playing in the CBA, he's essentially eliminating any global marketing appeal now as well as any future possibility of returning to the NBA for something even more lucrative.
     
  20. MorningZippo

    MorningZippo Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,249
    Likes Received:
    2,516
    I’ve also followed Lin’s entire career, so the “if you followed his career” argument doesn’t really work here.All of the NBA markets in the world combined, outside of the US, are still smaller than China.

    There’s simply no accurate argument where Lin benefits more from playing in other countries if he’s not trying to return to the NBA.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now