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Italy Judge Orders Arrest of 13 CIA Agents

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  1. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

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    By AIDAN LEWIS, Associated Press Writer
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050624/ap_on_re_eu/italy_cia

    ROME - An Italian judge ordered the arrests of 13 people in the purported CIA abduction of an imam, who then was sent to Egypt, the Milan prosecutor's office said Friday. An Italian official said earlier the 13 were CIA officers involved in U.S. anti-terrorism efforts.

    The 13 are suspected of seizing Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, known as Abu Omar, on the streets of Milan on Feb. 17, 2003, and sending him to Egypt, where he reportedly was tortured, Milan prosecutor Manlio Claudio Minale said in a statement.

    An Italian newspaper said all 13 were American agents.

    The U.S. Embassy in Rome and the CIA in Washington declined to comment.

    The prosecutor's statement did not name any of the suspects, give their nationalities or mention the CIA by name, but an Italian official familiar with the investigation confirmed newspaper reports Friday that the suspects were working for the CIA. The official requested anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

    Minale said the suspects remained at large, and Italian authorities would ask the United States and Egypt for assistance in the case.

    Prosecutors believe the officers seized Omar as part of the CIA's "extraordinary rendition" program, in which terror suspects are transferred to third countries without court approval, according to reports Friday in newspapers Corriere della Sera and Il Giorno.

    The statement said Omar was attacked by two people while walking from home to a local mosque and hustled into a white van. He was taken to Aviano, a joint U.S.-Italian base north of Venice; another American air base in Ramstein, Germany; and then Cairo.

    Investigators confirmed the abduction through an eyewitness account and other, unidentified witnesses, the statement said.

    The statement said Omar was abused by interrogators in Egypt, according to phone calls made by Omar from Egypt to his wife and another unnamed Egyptian citizen in April-May, 2004.

    Italian papers have reported that Omar, 42, said in the calls he was tortured with electric shocks.

    On Friday, Corriere della Sera cited another Milan-based imam as telling Italian authorities that Omar had been tortured in Egypt after refusing to work in Italy as an informer.

    According to the testimony, Omar was hung upside down and subjected to extreme temperatures and loud noise that damaged his hearing, Corriere reported.

    Minale said the judge rejected a request for arrest warrants for six more suspects believed to have helped prepare the operation.

    Judge Chiara Nobile ordered the arrests after investigators traced the 13 through check-in details at Milan hotels and their use of Italian cell phones during the operation, the reports in Corriere and Il Giorno said.

    Il Giorno said the 13 were American agents, and three of them were women.

    Minale said a judge also issued a separate arrest warrant for Omar on terrorist charges. In that warrant, Judge Guido Salvini claimed the seizure of Omar represented a violation of Italian sovereignty, according to Italian news agency Apcom.

    Omar was believed to have fought alongside jihadists in
    Afghanistan and Bosnia, and prosecutors were seeking evidence against him before his disappearance, according to a report in La Repubblica newspaper last year, which cited intelligence officials.

    The prosecutor's office said Omar was released by the Egyptians after his interrogation but later was arrested again.

    Corriere said Italian police picked up details, including cover names, photos, credit card details, and U.S. addresses that the 13 had given to a number of five-star hotels in Milan around the time of Omar's alleged abduction.

    It said investigators also found the prepaid highway passes the 13 used for the journey from Milan to the air base.

    The report said investigations showed the 13 ran up $144,984 in hotel bills in Milan, and two couples took holidays in northern Italy after delivering Omar at the Aviano air base.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    Watch it Italy! You’re either with us or against us. We've invaded and conquered you once, we can do it again.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Actually didn't we liberate them. I wonder what law they were violating?
     
  4. Saint Louis

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    Liberate, conquer all depends on who wrote the history book. The Italians pretty much went French and surrendered. The Allies really liberated Italy from Germany's hands in WWII.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    I think it depends on the definition of the words liberate and conquer.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    wnes, here are all the D&D threads that you have started in the past couple of days. All of them either bash our President or the administration.

    1. Italy Judge Orders Arrest of 13 CIA Agents

    2. Rumsfeld: "Well, that is quite a statement."

    3. What's Up With the Downing Street Memo? ( 1 2 3 )

    4. Poll: In wake of Iraq war, allies prefer China to U.S.

    5. Poll: More Americans Blame Bush Than Saddam for War

    6. Still remember the 8.8 billion dollars?

    We get your point. Start less threads. Thanks in advance.
     
  7. wnes

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    hey bigtexxx, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    Maybe you should start hanging out and posting here.
     
  9. Grizzled

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    Keep starting threads wnes! Denial doesn’t make these issues go away, even though the censor brigade from the right wishes it would. Or is it more accurate to call them the Thought Police?
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    As far as I can see and tell he is just posting the news.
     
  11. Grizzled

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    But he’s not posting their news. The world is black and white in their heads. You’re either for them or against them. It clearly doesn’t matter what the issue is or where the criticisms are true or justified. You’re either for their team or against their team, and if you’re against their team then you’re an infidel who needs to be shouted down, silenced and driven off.
     
  12. losttexan

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    As far as I can see and tell he is just posting the news.

    Don't you realize that some people will call that being unamerican.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Yeah, the left is just getting crushed by censorship. I barely ever hear any criticism from that side these days. Hard to find an anti- Bush post anywhere.
     
  14. gwayneco

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    I wonder when the Italians will arrest Oriani Fallaci (sp?).
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    I'm just guessing here, but perhaps kidnapping?
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    The CIA agents are working in Italy with their knowledge so I think they know we'd be taking prisoners. I think they are more bothered by the taking of the hostages to Egypt where they will be tortured. But I was wondering if there is an actual law concerning that in Italy.
     
  17. ima_drummer2k

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    Yes, and what better place to launch this crusade than a basketball website!
     
  18. MadMax

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    nah, jaywalking.
     
  19. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Maybe all of those could just go into a Bush Bashing sticky.
     
  20. wizardball

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    the U.S is killing its credibility...
     

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