Is convincing stars to take pay cuts becoming a necessary part of building a championship team?

Who said I was hating on the dude himself? There is nothing morally wrong about this. But who cares about morality, we dont even know these guys!

My pount is that as an NBA fan, it is frustrating that he found a way to stack the deck so where do we go from here?

 

@Os Trigonum I think we agree on near everything. The only difference is that you accept reality for what it is and say theres no point in banging your head against the wall for something that we couldnt AND (morally) shouldnt try to prevent because it is KDs decision not ours.

Good point. Banging your head against the wall in frustration at competitive parity without having a solution that doesnt infringe on a players rights is very unproductive.

We will see how the league adapts to this juggernaut.

 

Thats why I havent studied him then. I studied natural philosophy and mainly philosophy of mind.

I never was never enamored by political/social philosophy. Smart stuff just not my thing! Reading hobbes leviathan and platos republic were my introductions to that type of philosophy and I didnt get too into it.

Philosophy of mind is what i took 80% of my classes in. Trying to solve the mind-body problem. Trying to define conciousness as functionalist, dualist, or identity theorist and learning stuff like how computationalism helped develop computer science was always more interesting to me.

I like philosophy at an individual level at ones identity more than I am interested in philosophy at a macro level like studying a society.

EDIT: you've definitely written a good amount of papers and studied plenty of academic topics. I wasnt really replying back to you in a very academic way because im typing on my phone but you hit me with some good points and statements. I love it when people debate like that because it allows us to find the fundamental differences on views when things are tied back to thesis statements.

Too many debates are filled with straw men arguments and accusing people of having positions that they dont hold. Too many things are lost in communication. Writing as you did makes it much easier to understamd where someone stands on a topic.

 

Im jealous and a hater? Not at all man. Just talking about how these moves effect the league and how we should build a championship team these days.

I liked os trigonums approach a lot more than yours. You dont gotta name call or act like im an idiot. We can hold different view points...

 

Im not saying lebrons the good guy and KDs thr bad guy. We all know about his miami superteam paycut. I was dissapointed by that then because it seemed like the rest of the league would have no chance (i was wrong, dallas, san antonio both had great finals vs them)

I know they dont need the $ because they make a ton in endorsements. My only point is that our salary cap is the only system we have in place to tru to incentivize stars to fill out all 30 teams so it is a little bit dissapointing when someone like KD takes less which allows them to get iggy and livingston back.

Jealous and a hater? No. Unenthusiastic about competitive parity in the west? Yes. An I not allowed to feel that way? Does my response have to be "hell yah KD and goldenstate do yo thang!!!!"

Im not saying hes breaking rules or being a bad person. Im saying I hope we find a way to compete and it seems like the only way to compete is for other people to take paycuts.

I dont care what is in their pockets, i care about competitive parity. I would love it if lebron and other stars now take paycuts so the playoffs can be competitive again.

My bottom line is this: i dont want a league where one team is in a class of their own.

 

I agree and i was dissapointed back then. Everyone is misunderstanding me. Im not saying anyones goodguy or bad guy.

Lebron isnt in the right and kd isnt on the wrong. Im saying lebron is pissed because he has to take a paycut again to beat these guya which brings me to my point.

Are all stars gonna have to take paycuts to compete?

Idc how much they make or morality. Im purely asking where we go from here, how are other stars and the league going to combat the warriors when they found the way to stack the deck

Too many people are acting as if i care how rich these guys are or Im trying to discull virtue/morality or hero/villain

 

Interesting. Still internalizing that concept and Im trying to find perversions where that rule wouldnt work in its intended sense (like luxury tax became a perversion because it harmed small market more than big market and the salary cap became a perversion when stars started taking way less to team up)

I cant think of any perversions in that idea