Ignore John Doe...Ming can't have a "no trade" clause

hah!! Take that!

Someone needs to sit him down and explain that the NBA has rules that must be followed and that he can either go by them or keep Ming over there till he does agree.

Otherwise known as the "Our way or the highway!" clause.!

 

If these guys are so eager to have Yao play in the NBA, they sure haven't done their homework.

I heard someone say on another thread this was posturing. If it's posturing it's the worst posturing I've ever seen leading into a deal. You posture in an attempt to bargain for what is inside the playing field...you don't posture over impossibilities, or you risk looking foolish from the outset...and that sets how the other side sees you from that point forward.

This isn't posturing..it's just flat out ignorance.

 

Great point!

It's like the Sharks & Co. know that this could and should be a pretty easy deal, but they want to play tough for apperances' sake.

I mean, when the strongest demand you can make is, 'Don't come to China unless you're going to draft Yao Ming' when everyone knows (from all indications) that that's the Rockets' intention,....

Kinda sounds like 'Don't eat unless you're hungry.'

Did Yogi Berra teach them the art of the deal, or what?

You have to think that the Sharks are enjoying the attention, as are the Rockets.

 

If these guys are so eager to have Yao play in the NBA, they sure haven't done their homework.

I heard someone say on another thread this was posturing. If it's posturing it's the worst posturing I've ever seen leading into a deal. You posture in an attempt to bargain for what is inside the playing field...you don't posture over impossibilities, or you risk looking foolish from the outset...and that sets how the other side sees you from that point forward.

This isn't posturing..it's just flat out ignorance.

I'm not so sure this is true. They can simply play it out to not knowing much about the NBA. They KNOW the Rockets love and want Ming. They also know the Rockets are complete pushovers when it comes to contracts. Make ridiculous demands and the Rockets may simply say "well, we can give you all these things, but these others are prohibited by the NBA." In the end, they get all the things they wanted by demanded even more that they know they couldn't get.

Actually quite effective if you're negotiating with someone who's easy to push around.

Really, what does China have to lose? If they don't get what they want from the Rockets, they know the Rockets will likely trade the #1 pick to someone else who really wants Ming and may just give them what they want.

 

heypartner, i do think dat u should stop using de word "chinaman"! it is not a good word after all!

 

Actually the Chinese do have something to lose here...let's say the Rocks trade the pick to a team that wants to take J Will insteady of Ming....then they do lose out on some cash.

And the problem here is that we're confusing the players...there's the Chinese govt and then there's the Shanghai Sharks. Seems like we're negotiating with three different entities when you consider Ming's representation as well.

I think you give this guy with the Sharks more credit than I do....you see him as dumb like a fox...I just see him as ignorant of NBA rules...and that really makes me question how interested these guys are (at least the guys with the Sharks) in getting Ming to the NBA game.

 

<i>I'm not so sure this is true. They can simply play it out to not knowing much about the NBA. They KNOW the Rockets love and want Ming. They also know the Rockets are complete pushovers when it comes to contracts. Make ridiculous demands and the Rockets may simply say "well, we can give you all these things, but these others are prohibited by the NBA." In the end, they get all the things they wanted by demanded even more that they know they couldn't get.
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Interesting idea, but I'm not sure of what there is for them to demand. They want him to go #1 and he will if we select him. His salary is set by the NBA rookie scale. The amount of compensation that we can give them for his services is also fixed ($350,000). What's left for them to demand? They can ask for the Rockets to conduct clinics for the Chinese coaches and players, but I'm sure the Rockets would already be willing to agree to that in order to close the deal.

The only other thing that they can get is a verbal committment that we intend to select Yao and they we don't intend to trade him. That's just a statement of our intention and isn't legally binding, since we can't put a no-trade into his contract.

I'm not really seeing what's left to negotiate if they're ok with Houston and the Rockets in general.

 

there is nothing easier than negotiating an NFL deal...it's really nothing more than a matter of the actual dollars to be paid...an NBA deal isn't far off from that. the union has already done the negotiating...the terms are set. if anyone should understand this, it should be the chinese.

 

Aelliott,could a verbal commitment to the Sharks about not wanting to trade him somehow get us in trouble with the NBA?
I'm worried that someone could interpret this to mean that the Rockets are doing things that the NBA does not want them to do.