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Has Bagwell lost it?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by JBIIRockets, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. JPM0016

    JPM0016 Contributing Member

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    end of what story? You don't know where he'll end up next year
     
  2. pugsly8422

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    I believe this quote says it all, and is 100% correct, unfortunately. If this could happen it would be great and you woudl think he was the type of person who would/could do this for a franchise to help them now and in the future. But once again I believe nothing is going to change with his contract and we will lose Beltran even though we'll offer him a contract. I'll repeat the key part of the quote...
    Pugs
     
  3. codell

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    Technically, he can, by deferring money (i.e., spread out the last $30 mil over 10 years instead of 2).

    However, it can't be in a way where the value of the contract is less. MLBPA will not allow that.
     
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    Bagwell did this exact same thing last year. There was a period when he went like a month, IIRC, without a HR or RBI, one or the other. He sucked in the middle of last season and he's doing it again, but I think he'll be able to go on a tear like last year. He did end up with 39/100, remember.
     
  5. SamCassell

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    He was likely gone for the season anyway, with the hand injury. But yea, Bags isn't the same. He's still a solid player, but he's not playing at the Hall-of-Fame level he once did.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I think he is done, he will have flashes, but it is time to move him to the bottom of the lineup.

    He just does not have it anymore....

    DD
     
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    Bagwell used to have it. But then they changed what it was. Now, what Bagwell has, isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to him. It will happen to Biggio.
     
  8. codell

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    He is already batting 6th. Do you really think Ausmus and Everett should bat ahead of him?
     
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    Ausmus shouldn't even be in the lineup anymore.
     
  10. JPM0016

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    Ausmus stats are right on par with what he's done the last 4 years. It's easier to point the finger at him when the rest of the lineup has sucked it up for 6 or 7 weeks. He's the #8 hitter, he's not expected to do anything
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    He just got intentional walked. Maybe that will fire him up! :)
     
  12. xiki

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    I feel for the guy. He's got the fire, but needs to be rewired. That 'achilles shoulder' pains me as a fan and as a fellow biped.

    Bags should probably, at least apparently, hang 'em up at season's end. I'll be sorry to see him go -- sorry to watch him suffer now.
     
  13. JBIIRockets

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    Bagwell's grounding-out-to-shortstop-average has to be around .700.

    He either does that or strikes out.
     
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    What is Bagwells total K's for the season? Seems he is trying to hit a Hr everytime he is at bat. Still can't believe he is due 40 ml over the next three years.
     
  15. Roc Paint

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    He's not intimidating anyone right now, and no one is affraid of him. And if the Astros are going to have any chance at getting to the post-season, Jeff Bagwell must show up now, or the 'Stros could be in big trouble.

    I think he just needs to settle in a little bit more, and let the pitches come to him, instead of going after everything with bad intensions.
     
  16. ILoveClutchCity

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    Biggio has more HRs than Bagwell. That is the only stat I need to see to convince me Bags is done. Can anyone tell me the last season that at the break Biggs had more jacks than Bags?
     
  17. Khopesh

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    The point is he can't wait for the pitch because his swing takes so long. That and he jerks his head away from the ball on the tail end.
     

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