[Graphic: Death shown] I found a genuine reason for armed protests.

He wasn't resisting when he's down. There is a reason that technique was banned by NYPD.

There is no absolute safe takedown maneuver but there are several regarding joint manipulation rather than trying to cut off someone's air or blood supply to brain. For that matter Garner wasn't even being violent when LEO Panteleo jumped on his back. This is where deescalation should've been used. Let him vocalize for awhile to calm him down. For the Floyd case he was already cuffed well before. From what I can see of the videos is they had problems putting him in the car so took him down and then LEO Chauvin put a restraint / compliance technique on and kept it there until he died.

 

This is murder in the 2nd degree. 1st degree, you'd have to prove it was premeditated, I believe. Could be a hard sell unless they have damning evidence.

If the DA offers up manslaughter charges, if convicted, these officers won't spend more that 2 to 4 years in jail. Damn shame.

RiP

 

I got your point was pointing out that if this had been anyone else the prosecutors would go the the higher charge i totally agree with what you are saying.

 

Glad to see HK style 'protests' happening here.

enjoy media and police's reaction to this and comparisons of their effort on reporting HK.

Fight for freedom. Stand with MN.

 

This is my problem with the Garner narrative. Deescalation? His fat ass was allowed to ramble for at least five minutes after being told to move from a spot he had already been arrested in at the store owners request.

The after forcing them to move him he starts waving his hands when being cuffed. We expect cops to maintain composure and they certainly did.

He was unhealthily.

 

He was being arrested after not moving after being told to

 

Refusing to move should not cost you your life. Resisting arrest that way isn't a reason for lethal deadly force.

 

Were you there?

 

It's all on the video.

 

He died from asthma. He brought on the physical confrontation after refusing to be cuffed

 

The coroner disagrees with your expert medical opinion

 

Maybe you can smother someone out with a pillow & cause of death not be suffocation, so long as they had asthma.

If anyone thinks what we're seeing now is bad, if these cops get off because it's determined cause of death is asthma, not technically choking... I think the kind of reaction you'd see would result in the national guard having to kill people in the streets, to prevent police and government offices/courts from being overrun, burned to the ground along with the rest of the city.

 

I just posted what the coroner said. He died from asthma brought on by the confrontation.

 

They held him for 45 secs. He wasn't smothered to death

 

One correction Garner was approached about the cigarettes but he had already been arrested for doing the same **** in the same spot. But that's stupid on his part

 

From what I understand of MN stature a First Degree Murder would be very difficult as it would have to prove either premeditation or that this was part of another felony. Second degree is definitely within range as for how long Chauvin sits on him can be seen as malicious intent.

 

Did you say something Russian Bot?

Rocket River

 

That's the point LE deal with all sorts of people and since the US is a fat country a lot of unhealthy people with problems associated with that. None of that justifies taking him down with a banned move, banned because of it's potential of danger. You have a very different idea of keeping composure..