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[GOLDEN ERA] Economy roars to life under Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Dec 23, 2025.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Sure, I'd be happy to. The news gets better the more you drill down here. Private payrolls surging, overcoming the losses from eliminating the government bloat and illegals. It's a great day for Americans. And this is deeply disappointing to the partisans who are rooting for reduced prosperity under Trump. They are very disappointed!




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  2. Nook

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    Some of them - but the real story is the adjustment that they did for the final 2025 numbers in this same report.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics revised downward its payroll growth numbers for most of 2025, from 584,000 to 151,000.

    This means that monthly payrolls did not grow last year by nearly 50,000, as we thought, but instead grew at a very paltry 15,000 per month. Compared to last January, unemployment and job loss have risen; permanent job loss and long-term job loss are higher than last year, while ticking up modestly in January.

    Job growth was extremely slow in 2025.

    Job vacancies have declined to their lowest level in a decade.

    The reason that such sluggish job growth hasn’t added too much to the unemployment rate is that labor force growth has also declined, primarily due to immigration changes. New immigration to the U.S. has dropped substantially, in response to the Trump administration’s deportation campaign, and those already here seem to be leaving the labor force.

    These numbers will likely decline by more in 2026, in response to the aggressive activities of Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Minneapolis and elsewhere. The good news is that, with fewer workers here, higher unemployment is averted; the bad — and much worse — news is that a lower labor force means lower GDP growth and a possible uptick in prices and inflation — and the next inflation report is due on Friday.

    So - what it means is that the expectation for 2025 was stubborn growth in the economy - and when they released the numbers little by little, it looked like the economy was treading water --- but now, with all the numbers, it shows that the numbers were INFLATED and the actual growth was LOWER than the low growth expected.... and the growth that we did get was almost all by the ultra wealthy and investment in AI.

    So, for the overwhelming majority of Americans 2025 was expected to be bad, and it ended up being even worse than the low expectations.

    So Trump can gas lighting the American people with claims the economy is great - and his minions can try to manipulate the numbers, but the American people see through it. It won't work. It did not work for Biden post COVID, it did not work for GW Bush and it won't work for this President.
     
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    as pointed out by Forbes,

    If anything, the Jan 2026 Jan job Growth numbers might be a bit inflated by a quirk in how BLS adjusts numbers
    for seasonal changes: since hiring in the 2025 Christmas season was lower than usual, the number of layoffs of temporary employees in January was lower as well, creating a positive bump in the payroll numbers when seasonally adjusted.


    After factoring in all the adjustments made by Trump 2.0's BLS:

    Job growth was extremely slow in 2025, indicating a labor market that is, at best, treading water.
    Job vacancies have declined to their lowest level in nine years, and hiring is extremely sluggish.
    This means higher unemployment for young jobseekers, particularly those coming out of college,
    even if layoffs of those already hired have only ticked up a bit.


    The reason that such sluggish job growth hasn’t added too much to the unemployment rate is that
    labor force growth has also declined, primarily due to immigration changes.

    And the overall economic picture remains very cloudy. GDP growth appears to have ticked up in the second half of 2025; consumer spending has remained fairly strong, even while consumer sentiment is quite negative.

    But most economic growth in 2025 was concentrated in investments in artificial intelligence (AI) by businesses and in higher consumer spending by very affluent households; the working and middle classes found fewer new jobs and spend barely more than the year before.

    Tariff increases from 2025 might well push up prices further in 2026, and uncertainty continues to dampen employment and spending growth.
     
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  4. Nook

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    You keep ****ing that chicken Chico.
     
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    The answer isn’t important anymore. Something that was once universally trusted is now questionable, whatever the answer.
     
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    Overall, 1M+ fewer people were employed in 2025 than originally reported.

    Pretty much everything in 2025 was dead except healthcare. Government lost the most (not surprising), followed by transportation and warehousing, then manufacturing. This is why 2025 felt like a recession in the job market.
     
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    Progress due to sound financial policies...




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    What a list! All are benefitting from responsible economic policies under Trump




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    Cut it to the BONE. Then cut some more.




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    Weakest job growth in 2025 ever
     
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    Nope -- try factoring in the removal of illegals and the elimination of hundreds of thousands of government jobs (bloat). Trump was able to turn around a multi-year decline in manufacturing jobs (that Biden caused)... and now investment is pouring in. The future is bright for the American worker.


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    What's really funny is how you swallow and regurgitate every lie and manufactured factoid this regime and related stooges feed you.
     
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    Inflation continues to fall! Great news for the American consumer. Bad news for Democrats hoping for economic ruin.

    Democrats -- just admit you were wrong about tariffs and Trump's policies. The data speaks.




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    CNN says it -- Trump is delivering on reducing inflation...

    So many liberals are swayed and influenced by the 99% negative coverage on Trump. They don't know any better and/or lack the critical thinking skills to spot deception. Data speaks -- and the data shows Trump is delivering on the economy.




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    Traitor George pretends that there is no such thing as jobs / employment
     
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