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George Floyd autopsies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, May 31, 2020.

  1. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Contributing Member
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    I seem to keep pulling stuff from reddit, but, man, talk about bad luck with the Po Po. Gerald F'ing Goines...

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  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The police shouldn't be keeping a technique on someone for even 1 second.

    Once a guy is handcuffed why on earth is the cop on his neck? The problem with @bigtexxx argument that other things caused his death is that it doesn't matter. The fact is that the officer did something he shouldn't do and in BOTH reports it was listed as either a contributing factor or the deciding factor in his cause of death.

    It's beyond reasonable doubt that had the officer not stuck his knee on the man's neck, he's still be alive. Now his defense will like argue that the man was about to die anyway and that's why he was on the ground - but the problem with the bigtexxx argument is the giant hole that if that were true, why would the officer put his knee on his neck??? Would that be the necessary response to a man who collapse or fell down and why???
     
  3. Senator

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    How would you react if you're a cop and someone lunges at you? Have you ever had the courage to put yourself in that position? Have you looked at the stats of people getting into small trouble, with a more violent criminal past, overreacting because they knew this fact?

    This isn't about the Floyd cop, he's already in prison, get over it. The general attitude that cops should treat a crime like a newborn child is committing it, with gentle whispers and feathers. More "at ease" cops die at the hands of African Americans than the other way around. 1 racist cop and "systematic racism" in Minnesota isn't why we see what we see on a daily basis all over the country.
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    The "bigtexxx" argument? I was simply asking questions because the first autopsy suggested that he didn't die from the knee on neck. I didn't draw the conclusion you're suggesting.

    The new autopsy said that the "knee on neck" did cause the death, in combination with the fact that Floyd was high on opioids and had meth in his body.
     
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  5. No Worries

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    That is complete and total BS.
     
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  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    No, BOTH autopsies said that,.the first one was changed. You can’t read can you?
     
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    nice
    i was wondering where this thread went .. op got so thoroughly brutalized by the entire board and he went and changed the title? BWHAHAHA Wow what a p***y! You just cant get any more pathetic.

    Dang son talk about self ownage.
    Now might be a good time for another cringe mlk quote you 'racist pos' as people call you here lol
    Or better yet I like the bigotexx name they gave. good one!

    Nice that they let you race troll here gotta love that

    humiliation fetish
    but im not the first dog thats shi**tted on ya lawn
     
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  8. bigtexxx

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    ? I exhibited mature thinking and reasoning ability. When new facts came to like, my position evolved. Too bad you never did the same in similar previous incidents (Mike Brown, Trayvon, etc).
     
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    Someone please insert a photo of BigotTex clutching his pearls while holding a tub of popcorn
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You were not simply asking questions - you were making quite a statement. Not to mention you are going with the false right-wing narrative of the boogie man Antifa despite there not being any sign of Antifa at the protests - but there are signs of white nationalists at these protests causing trouble to smear the BLM name.

    Where are your facts to support the statement??? You claim to show mature thinking - is it mature to make reckless statements that you can't back up?
     
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    lol so much ownage of bigtexxx here, i've never seen anything like it.

    here is a live picture of bigtexxx =

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  12. bobrek

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    A reporter tweeted this same info...

     
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    https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hen...-safety/documents/Autopsy_2020-3700_Floyd.pdf

    https://www.startribune.com/george-...ted-positive-for-covid-19-in-april/571000102/

    The Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office released the full autopsy results performed on George Floyd with his family’s permission.

    The release comes nine days after Floyd died following his detention on the pavement by police at a Minneapolis intersection and as crucial differences surfaced Monday with private autopsy findings released by family attorney Benjamin Crump.

    Also disclosed by the report was that Floyd tested positive for COVID-19 in early April, although the autopsy did not cite that as a factor in his death.

    “Since … positivity for [COVID-19] can persist for weeks after the onset and resolution of clinical disease, the autopsy result most likely reflects asymptomatic but persistent … positivity from previous infection,” the report said based on the autopsy performed by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker.

    The release of the 20-page report comes “with the consent and cooperation of Mr. George Floyd’s family and their legal representatives,” the examiner’s office said in a statement that noted a court order was also needed.

    The key difference between the medical examiner’s findings and those of the private examination is whether Floyd died from asphyxia.

    The medical examiner made a point last week to say no, while the second report’s findings focused heavily on asphyxia being caused by officer Derek Chauvin pinning Floyd’s neck for nearly 9 minutes with his knee while fellow officer Thomas Lane put his weight on the 46-year-old’s back and constricted his chest.

    Before releasing the full report, the examiner’s office summarized in two public disclosures that Floyd died as a result of “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.” It also listed “arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease,” as well as fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as “other significant conditions.”

    The medical examiner appeared to back his conclusion that Floyd was not asphyxiated by listing a host of injuries absent in this case, in particular petechiae, or pinpoint-size red spots caused by broken blood vessels that can sometimes be a sign of asphyxiation.

    Also highlighted in the report was that the autopsy failed to find “life-threatening” injuries to Floyd’s neck near his head, spine, chest, brain, skull or related to the larynx.

    Along with having tested positive for COVID-19, these latest disclosures from the autopsy also revealed:

    • Blunt-force injuries to Floyd’s face, shoulders, hands, arms and legs.

    • Bruises on his wrists from the handcuffs.

    • One rib was broken during cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
     
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    This gentlemen got around.
    Sang with DJ screw
    Arrested by acevedo's crookedest cop
    Covid-19
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    The opioids and meth did not contribute to the cause of death. They were just mentioned as additional pieces of information. Getting airflow cut off for 9 minutes will kill people, completely regardless of whether they are high or not.
     
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    None of which is relevant to the fact that he was murdered in cold blood
     
  17. vlaurelio

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    what's your point?
     
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    Disgusting thread for a disgusting soul.
     
  19. Senator

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    That's it, I'm protesting… We have to keep violent criminals safe and putting Officer Floyd in jail outrages me.

    No one has an issue with the meth, the opium, the guns, the threatening women with violence, the repeated break ins, but they're going to riot over the emotion of the "I can't breathe" statement. This only points to an entire narrative that glorifies violent crime if you’re black and sets back marginalized communities.


    George Floyd had ‘violent criminal history’: Minneapolis police union chief

    The head of the Minneapolis police union says George Floyd’s “violent criminal history” needs to be remembered and that the protests over his death are the work of a “terrorist movement.”

    “What is not being told is the violent criminal history of George Floyd. The media will not air this,” police union president Bob Kroll told his members in a letter posted Monday on Twitter.

    Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs.

    Floyd died last week after a white cop kneeled on the 46-year-old black man’s neck for nearly 9 minutes, a shocking incident that was caught on video and is sparking widespread violent protests, including in New York City. Floyd had allegedly just tried to pass a phony $20 bill before he died.

    “This terrorist movement that is currently occurring was a long time build up which dates back years,” Kroll said in his letter of the protests, adding that some of his city’s issues exist because Minneapolis leaders have been “minimizing the size of our police force and diverting funds to community activists with an anti-police agenda.

    “Our chief requested 400 more officers and was flatly denied any. This is what led to this record breaking riot,” he said.
     
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  20. Sanctity

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    Maybe Gerald Goines had a stake in Floyd's murder? If you google El Nuevo Rodeo you have speculation into drug trafficking and money laundering as Floyd and Chauvin were both security details there.... So many know there was and is much more to the case then just routine police brutality.
     
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