[FEDERALIST] Why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Could Be The Left’s Donald Trump

Fox News watchers aren't the people she's trying to convince.

 

Speaking of the Billionaire funded/Koch Bros funded Federalist Society, It makes me wonder HOW THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY MIGHT BE AMERICA'S VERSION OF NAZI JURISPRUDENCE UNDER HITLER.

It is always useful in an advanced society especially to couch things in terms of the law.

The ludicrous Immigration Court Hearings with 1-5 year old kids unrepresented sort of brings to mind if the Nazis would have had 5 minute hearings for each person lined up for the gas chambers.

 

I'm pretty far left leaning but what exactly is the "IA" in LGBTQIA?

That's a new addition to me and a mouthful of an acronym...

(TWSS)

 

well you prompted me to go to google.
What does "lgbtqia+" stand for exactly?
If you're just learning about sexuality, gender, and all these other things, they can be a little hard to remember. This acronym not only serves as a symbol of our movement for rights, but even as a memory tool for those who need a little help.
L - Lesbian. Lesbian is a term used to refer to homosexual females.
G - Gay. Gay is a term used to refer to homosexuality, a homosexual person, or a homosexual male.
B - Bisexual. Bisexual is when a person is attracted to two sexes/genders.
T - Trans. Trans is an umbrella term for transgender and transsexual people.
Q - Queer/Questioning. Queer is an umbrella term for all of those who are not heterosexual and/or cisgender. Questioning is when a person isn't 100% sure of their sexual orientation and/or gender, and are trying to find their true identity.
I - Intersex. Intersex is when a person has an indeterminate mix of primary and secondary sex characteristics.
A - Asexuality. Asexuality is when a person experiences no (or little, if referring to demisexuality or grey-asexuality) sexual attraction to people.
+ - The "+" symbol simply stands for all of the other sexualities, sexes, and genders that aren't included in these few letters.

 

So did the country. Or did you miss the fact that since 2009 the Senate, House, and Presidency flipped? (Not to mention huge losses in State govt, Governorships)

 

Did you miss the fact that he got re-elected?

 

Huh?

What does any of that have to do with Obama being center-right on the political spectrum?

None of that reveals that the country thought Obama was far-left, as mentioned, he won his re-election, unless you are saying that the country will reject left of center politicians?

We'll see, if the polling is correct the Democrats will continue to gather wins and will win back Congress this year...and all of that will be irrelevant to Obama being a moderate at best and center-right on the spectrum. When you are calling Obama a far left socialist (as he was called plenty of times) then I can understand how Ocasio would seem like actual Stalin to many on the right.

 

She seems the opposite of Trump. Intelligent, humble, attractive, well-spoken, personable, genuinely interested in doing good for her country, not a Russian stooge, not an *******, not an ego maniac, not a bigot.

It's fascinating how Republicans are going nuts about her. I'm sure they're already testing focus groups to see what lines of BS work against her.

 

LOL well he was back then, he's certainly not anymore though. Things have moved so far to the left that if they keep on going like this for a few more years you guys will be calling him a far right Nazi.

 

She is the opposite of Trump, and she is strong - that's why they fear her. She could be the next Obama.

The threat she poses is she's too clean - they can't attack her the way they attack Hillary - there's not enough dirt on here. So that's why they are freaking out and trying to attack her now - figure out how to destroy her before she can rise up and swept to victory.

Frankly I am more of a moderate and prefer folks like Biden or Clinton or even Obama far more than her as she definitely left leaning. But I will take her over a Republican any day of the week.

 

LOL glad we now agree that Obama was a Moderate. I've been saying that the entire time. I guess it took people left of him for you to actually see that.

I won't be calling him a far right Nazi, only if he takes up far right Nazi politics. Where you fall on the political spectrum btw is not dependent on if there is someone left or right of you...so Obama didn't suddenly become a moderate because Ocasio popped onto the scene...he's always been moderate it's just you didn't realize it then.

 

It only took the left moving so far to the left where you have people trying to argue that outright socialists are moderates so that Obama could become a relative moderate. BTW, the political compass is based on circumstance, what is "moderate" in America today, would be far right wing in 1980's USSR while your girl Ocasio-Cortez would be a moderate in 1980's USSR.

Just the same what was moderate a decade ago is now considered pretty far right and what was pretty far left is considered moderate.

Now none of that means that Obama was actually a moderate in the political climate a decade ago, it just means that things have shifted pretty far to the left since then.

 

You are wrong. Just dead wrong here. The Political Compass is NOT based on circumstance, it is based on actual positions. It is not something that changes on a whim based on who is around or not. It is not relative at all. Either you fit on the left or right or you don't. If your positions change, then you then change, the compass doesn't change. Argue the validity of the spectrum, if it is valid, if people should think of themselves as left right or whatever, but just saying it is all relative is silly. Trump doesn't suddenly become a liberal because there are people to the right of him. Now, liberals would then vote for him because he'd be the better of two evils, but it doesn't mean that he's now a liberal. Obama doesn't become a progressive because there are people to the left of him. Bernie and Ocasio run on the SAME issues. The very same ones. Bernie existed while Obama was president. Obama has always been a moderate...AT BEST...

If you are SERIOUSLY going to argue this, please think of the words. Words DO have meanings Bobby. Political...COMPASS How does a compass works? North doesn't change on a compass Bobby. North is always one way.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass

What you are referring to is an actual thing.

"The underlying theory of the political compass is that political ideology may be better measured along two separate and independent axes. The economic (left–right) axis measures one's opinion of how the economy should be run: "left" is defined as the desire for the economy to be run by a cooperative collective agency (which can mean the state, but can also mean a network of communes) while "right" is defined as the desire for the economy to be left to the devices of competing individuals and organizations. The other axis (authoritarian–libertarian) measures one's political opinions in a social sense, regarding the amount of personal freedom that one would allow: "libertarianism" is defined as the belief that personal freedom should be maximised while "authoritarianism" is defined as the belief that authority should be obeyed."

Funnily enough, the site that made actually rated Obama.

As I've been saying, you guys are going to miss Obama. The next Democratic president is going to be very left of center.

 

Yeah! Obama was just right there next to Reagan eh?

 

Reagan couldn't smell a nomination in today's Republican Party. He would be seen as too moderate, as weird as that might seem to me, who voted against him twice. I'm serious. The GOP's "god" would be too moderate. What does that say about today's GOP? Nothing good, in my opinion.

 

Can we all agree to shorten Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to AOC? It's just hard for my small brain to get through 11 syllables.

 

Yeah, Reagan wouldn't win on his immigration stance alone. They'd boo him out the building. He doesn't realize that the GOP has moved way to the right. This is why people like Bernie and Ocasio seem like radicals to them, around the world everyone else thinks of them as just liberals and wonders why the Americans have a healthcare system that bankrupts its citizens or an education system that puts its kids in debt.

Unfortunately, the GOP has successfully dragged the country right as well.

These guys are so far on the right that they didn't realize Obama was at best a moderate, to them he was some far-left liberal. I don't agree with where the compass guys have him, I'd have him more towards the middle and not so authoritarian, but since the people that run that site are European I guess I could see from their POV. I just feel Obama was very socially liberal I guess.